Twin Turbo 928 fixed and back out there terrorizing the streets!
#2161
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John finishing the wiring looms and connectors.
This is all getting buttoned up now n it’s fibal form before the pipes are reinstalled. There’s a good chance that the car will make it to a car show / enthusiast gathering in Ohio this coming weekend.
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#2165
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There’s some turbo speed gauge stuff etc. under the glove box, but that’s really just there for tuning etc. and not to be used while driving.
I have to figure out a data logging solution this winter to make long term progress with the project.
Here's the photo of the only visible instrument:
#2166
Cool, thank you for sharing. I'm assuming that the boost controller displays current pressure? So, you do have some extra data available after all of the tuning is done? But, no AFR's, intake temperatures, etc, right?
#2167
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My philosophy is that a street car that is fully baked doesn't need AFR gauges, intake temperatures, or anything like this. The stock engine coolant temperature should be enough as it's the convention, and some sort of general error code or limp-home mode. Everything else is just gimmicks. I'm sure many people disagree, I myself have changed my opinion about this.
This is separate from further development and tuning which needs a full data logging system. I don't have one yet, and I am hoping to get that added in Q1 2020. Can't make decisions about the next steps without a lot more data in actual street use.
#2168
You mention a limp home mode. Will your system detect something amiss (high pressure, high/low AFR, etc) and take action? If so, what are the boundaries and what does it do?
I agree with you about not needing those things for a properly setup car. Some of us just like gauges and data, though. and they do aid greatly in troubleshooting a problem if the driver is also the one who does the wrenching.
I agree with you about not needing those things for a properly setup car. Some of us just like gauges and data, though. and they do aid greatly in troubleshooting a problem if the driver is also the one who does the wrenching.
#2169
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You mention a limp home mode. Will your system detect something amiss (high pressure, high/low AFR, etc) and take action? If so, what are the boundaries and what does it do?
I agree with you about not needing those things for a properly setup car. Some of us just like gauges and data, though. and they do aid greatly in troubleshooting a problem if the driver is also the one who does the wrenching.
I agree with you about not needing those things for a properly setup car. Some of us just like gauges and data, though. and they do aid greatly in troubleshooting a problem if the driver is also the one who does the wrenching.
Anyone using the stock Bosch MAF sensor element, super MAF or no super MAF, with more than 500 crank hp should stare at the AFR gauge constantly. The sensor runs out of range and flatlines at an unpredictable point that depends on the environmental conditions.
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#2171
You're saying that the SuperMAF does not enable tuning beyond 500 hp, contrary to the JDS FAQ:
http://www.jdsporsche.com/sharktunerfaq.html
Can you provide a little more background and support for your statement? Are you not using the LH and EZK? Because if you are, you'll still run into the same voltage signal limitations. So, you're still compressing the signal like the SuperMAF does, right?
As far as overboost protection, it would be possible to have the alarm output trigger a safe fuel map via the coding plug. Is that what you're doing?
http://www.jdsporsche.com/sharktunerfaq.html
Can you provide a little more background and support for your statement? Are you not using the LH and EZK? Because if you are, you'll still run into the same voltage signal limitations. So, you're still compressing the signal like the SuperMAF does, right?
As far as overboost protection, it would be possible to have the alarm output trigger a safe fuel map via the coding plug. Is that what you're doing?
#2172
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You're saying that the SuperMAF does not enable tuning beyond 500 hp, contrary to the JDS FAQ:
http://www.jdsporsche.com/sharktunerfaq.html
Can you provide a little more background and support for your statement? Are you not using the LH and EZK? Because if you are, you'll still run into the same voltage signal limitations. So, you're still compressing the signal like the SuperMAF does, right?
As far as overboost protection, it would be possible to have the alarm output trigger a safe fuel map via the coding plug. Is that what you're doing?
http://www.jdsporsche.com/sharktunerfaq.html
Can you provide a little more background and support for your statement? Are you not using the LH and EZK? Because if you are, you'll still run into the same voltage signal limitations. So, you're still compressing the signal like the SuperMAF does, right?
As far as overboost protection, it would be possible to have the alarm output trigger a safe fuel map via the coding plug. Is that what you're doing?
The fuel and ignition map are already safe in the overboost condition, there's no need to trigger anything.
#2173
Gotcha. I like the idea of being able to switch to a NA map and disconnect the intake in case there is a problem. Makes it easier to get home.
Thanks for sharing. The car is looking good.
Thanks for sharing. The car is looking good.
#2174
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Since it's a mass air flow sensor system, it'll run just fine with the wastegates forced open or with the boost pipes disconnected upstream of the MAFs.
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