Trying to save a 91 GT from being broken up
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Cars normally don’t just end up with a salvage title for no reason at all. Something had to cause the insurance company to write this car off. I would drain the oil and look for water. If there is water, it will settle to the bottom of the pan and will show as soon as you pull the drain plug. Pull the spark plugs, crank the engine over (jump the starter) and see what shoots out of it.
I've been told the engine and trans have already been drained and the fluids were clean. I would rather have seen it myself but oh well. Seems a bit odd that they would have drained it. I can see checking them for contamination, but why drain them completely? I'm sure there are several answers to that question.
#52
Vehicle Information:
1991 PORSCHE 928 S-4/GT
VIN: WP0AA2928MS810133
COUPE
5.0L V8 FI DOHC 32V
REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
Branded Titles: Flood, Salvage
98,506
Last reported odometer reading
Summary
Total Loss
Total loss reported on 11/17/2009.
Total Loss Reported
Structural / Frame Damage
No structural / frame damage reported to
No Issues Reported
Airbag Deployment
No airbag deployment reported to
No Issues Reported
Odometer Rollback
Inconsistent odometer reading indicated.
Inconsistent Reading
Accident / Damage
DMV title problems reported.
Severe Damage
Manufacturer Recall
No recalls still require repair.
No Recalls Reported
Basic Warranty
Date:
Mileage:
Source:
Comments:
11/14/1990
37
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title issued or updated
Title or registration issued
First owner reported
05/02/1994
31,252
Virginia
Inspection Station
Alexandria, VA
Passed emissions inspection
06/17/1996
51,430
Virginia
Inspection Station
Alexandria, VA
Passed emissions inspection
04/08/1998
68,586
Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
05/29/1998
70,071
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
06/23/1998
70,302
Service Facility
Engine checked
08/19/1998
70,875
Service Facility
Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
Exterior lights checked
A/C and heating system checked
03/03/1999
76,740
Service Facility
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed
Engine checked
02/28/2000
79,824
Service Facility
Front wiper blades/refills replaced
Steering/suspension checked
Dash gauges checked
04/19/2000
80,522
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
05/15/2000
80,822
Service Facility
Engine checked
A/C and heating system checked
08/01/2000
81,875
Service Facility
Transmission checked
Axles checked
Front wiper blades/refills replaced
02/01/2001
83,556
Service Facility
Engine checked
Cooling system checked
Steering/suspension checked
Engine oil leak checked
04/04/2001
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title or registration issued
10/16/2001
88,005
Service Facility
Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
Wheels checked
05/15/2002
90,209
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
05/23/2002
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title or registration issued
04/08/2003
90,623
Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
04/29/2004
91,506
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
05/10/2004
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title or registration issued
12/16/2004
91,307
Service Facility
Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
Engine checked
INCONSISTENT ODOMETER READING
It is hard to tell whether this reading indicates an odometer rollback or a clerical error. Confirm the mileage with the seller or a qualified mechanic.
04/25/2006
92,020
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
05/03/2006
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title or registration issued
04/25/2008
94,427
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
10/26/2009
Precision Cars of Atlantic City Corp
Pleasantville, NJ
609-645-9000
www.PrecisionCarsAC.com
ww.PrecisionCarsAC.
com
Vehicle serviced
11/17/2009
New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE
Title or registration issued
to insurance company
11/17/2009
98,506
New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Neptune, NJ
Title #HH20093210364
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
FLOOD DAMAGE TITLE ISSUED
12/17/2009
1991 PORSCHE 928 S-4/GT
VIN: WP0AA2928MS810133
COUPE
5.0L V8 FI DOHC 32V
REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
Branded Titles: Flood, Salvage
98,506
Last reported odometer reading
Summary
Total Loss
Total loss reported on 11/17/2009.
Total Loss Reported
Structural / Frame Damage
No structural / frame damage reported to
No Issues Reported
Airbag Deployment
No airbag deployment reported to
No Issues Reported
Odometer Rollback
Inconsistent odometer reading indicated.
Inconsistent Reading
Accident / Damage
DMV title problems reported.
Severe Damage
Manufacturer Recall
No recalls still require repair.
No Recalls Reported
Basic Warranty
Date:
Mileage:
Source:
Comments:
11/14/1990
37
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title issued or updated
Title or registration issued
First owner reported
05/02/1994
31,252
Virginia
Inspection Station
Alexandria, VA
Passed emissions inspection
06/17/1996
51,430
Virginia
Inspection Station
Alexandria, VA
Passed emissions inspection
04/08/1998
68,586
Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
05/29/1998
70,071
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
06/23/1998
70,302
Service Facility
Engine checked
08/19/1998
70,875
Service Facility
Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
Exterior lights checked
A/C and heating system checked
03/03/1999
76,740
Service Facility
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed
Engine checked
02/28/2000
79,824
Service Facility
Front wiper blades/refills replaced
Steering/suspension checked
Dash gauges checked
04/19/2000
80,522
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
05/15/2000
80,822
Service Facility
Engine checked
A/C and heating system checked
08/01/2000
81,875
Service Facility
Transmission checked
Axles checked
Front wiper blades/refills replaced
02/01/2001
83,556
Service Facility
Engine checked
Cooling system checked
Steering/suspension checked
Engine oil leak checked
04/04/2001
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title or registration issued
10/16/2001
88,005
Service Facility
Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
Wheels checked
05/15/2002
90,209
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
05/23/2002
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title or registration issued
04/08/2003
90,623
Service Facility
Vehicle serviced
04/29/2004
91,506
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
05/10/2004
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title or registration issued
12/16/2004
91,307
Service Facility
Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
Engine checked
INCONSISTENT ODOMETER READING
It is hard to tell whether this reading indicates an odometer rollback or a clerical error. Confirm the mileage with the seller or a qualified mechanic.
04/25/2006
92,020
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
05/03/2006
Virginia
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Great Falls, VA
Title or registration issued
04/25/2008
94,427
Virginia
Inspection Station
Great Falls, VA
Passed emissions inspection
10/26/2009
Precision Cars of Atlantic City Corp
Pleasantville, NJ
609-645-9000
www.PrecisionCarsAC.com
ww.PrecisionCarsAC.
com
Vehicle serviced
11/17/2009
New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE
Title or registration issued
to insurance company
11/17/2009
98,506
New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Neptune, NJ
Title #HH20093210364
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
FLOOD DAMAGE TITLE ISSUED
12/17/2009
#53
Shameful Thread Killer
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Electronic dash makes a rollback just about impossible. However, it's pretty easy to swap the pod and the odometer reading is stored in the pod.
#54
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#55
Race Car
There was less than 6 months between the dates of the odometer discrepancy (which is only 200 miles off). It's probably just an error. Also, if someone went to the trouble to do this, they probably wouldn't be stupid enough to roll it back past where it was recorded last time.
Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft
Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft
#57
Rainman
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Cars normally don’t just end up with a salvage title for no reason at all. Something had to cause the insurance company to write this car off. I would drain the oil and look for water. If there is water, it will settle to the bottom of the pan and will show as soon as you pull the drain plug. Pull the spark plugs, crank the engine over (jump the starter) and see what shoots out of it.
#58
There are a number of different software programs that can do it. Here's just one that came up in a quick search. Notice that the 928 is listed.
http://www.diga-soft.de/odometer-sof...meter-software
http://www.diga-soft.de/odometer-sof...meter-software