cold_beer839

If you got the p.o.s. Rennlist forum search engine to work you should be smart enough to dump that 944 and get a 928.

A 944 is 1/2 the engine and 1/2 the car of a 928.

6mil928

I like the 944 thought about buying two of them for my girls.

worf928

IIRC it was determined sometime ago that the ONLY non-interference 928 motors were the low-compression 4.5L motors ( essentially the 8.5:1 motors and maybe the 9.0:1 motors.) Any of the higher-ratio motors are interference motors, would eat valves and even the 9.0 motors will eat valves with enough carbon buildup.

The 10.4:1 Euro 16v motors are definitely interference motors.

S4ordie

Stroked (6.5L) with twin screw supercharger fed by a vortec pre-supercharger with a G78 turbo out back. Will also have a bottle of giggle juice for those times when I need just a little more umph.

zoltan944

As far as I understood it was all US 16v motors that were non interference. Any 4.7 guys have any experience? lol

worf928

The 4.7 motors are 9.3:1

Maybe that's the "carbon buildup" compression threshold and the <= 9.0:1 motors are OK even when caked with crud. I don't remember.

But, the main point is that not ALL 16v motors can spin a belt and survive.

Heh. Exactly.

m73m95

Ok, so why does a car with adjustable coilovers from the factory not perform on a track?

zoltan944

well, I would definantly say in any event anything is possible anyway and the same caution should be shown to all these motors, although any 944 should also make sure they get changed.
Having had a bunch of 944s and 928s one thing I can say for sure is that you get what was originally paid for. It is obvious the 944 was a cheaper car when you drive it and put miles on it compared to the 928. But really its what your doing with the car and what you want. I like the 928 better, but the 944 got me back and forth on long comutes for a long time with a lower gas bill. Its hard to say the 944 is a better car because its not. Its really only the 951 guys that say anything anyway because they can spend a little bit to make a bit of power....
928 is supossed to be an electrical gremlin, but in the 3 Ive owned (and all older ones) im not chasing anything more electric passed regular stuff or even that matches the 944 stuff. Its really more of a preference and thats okay, go drive one and see if you wanna come over to the dark side

zoltan944

it does, they were joking. Search for Mark Anderson he regularly posts trck videos although a TON of others race, you will surely find his post of videos tho...
maybe just search for track videos these things are monsters on the track

worf928

Out-of-the-box? My personal pet opinion? Because the factory under-tired it on the front to make sure it couldn't castrate 911s on a track. If you do a little math it is easy to see that a stock 928 is under-tired for its weight as compared to a stock 911 or anything more-modern with a similar weight and architecture (like a C5 or C6 corvette.)

Nightfly

It's not just 944 vs 928; you'll find the 'my car is better than you're car' sentiment everywhere. But the reality is, we all admire a fine piece of machinery. In my earlier days, it was Mustang vs Camaro, and we'd all sit in the parking lots and poke at each other's car's supposed shortcomings, and then enjoy taking a ride and feeling the differences. Afterwards we'd talk about the engineering shortfalls and how we did or planned to fix them with our backyard tinkering. Today, I debate the issues of my twenty year old 928 vs an assortment of new cars with the guys I meet at work. When they find out what I got for sometimes one tenth of what they paid, it usually leaves them a little stunned for a few moments, but then the comparison goes on. Then we go for a ride. It's all good.

BBX

Can we get THIS on a plaque!?!?

BBX

Coilovers aren't everything. it's suspension design and geometry that determines a cars handicap. i know a lot of ricer guys think they can just "throw" some coilovers on their honda and it will handle like a ferrari. not.

alex70

Que video of the 928 doing Pike's peak.... or do a search

m73m95

That MF'er was screamin' lol

Its basically the same engine as the 944. right? So it only handles small amounts of boost (6-8psi)?