The ***MOST*** Restored 928???
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The ***MOST*** Restored 928???
Curious if anyone has restored/race prepped a 928, stripping it until it's COMPLETELY disassembled. Just the main body shell, etc.
How about with any other cars?
Just curious as to how far someones gone with this sort of thing.
Nick - 89 S4 Auto - OEM Seemingly Cursed Object Package - Still Love It...
How about with any other cars?
Just curious as to how far someones gone with this sort of thing.
Nick - 89 S4 Auto - OEM Seemingly Cursed Object Package - Still Love It...
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Totally restored my 1966 Sunbeam Tiger to concurs quality. Two years - full rotisserie, every nut/bolt/nub removed. Painful not sure I would do it again. Always better to pay someone else or better - to buy one already completed.
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Somewhere in the archives there's a white (green) '79 that IIRC was more or less a nut n bolt restoration. Will try to find it.
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My race car was one of Mark Anderson's first and it was done that way. Stripped completely bare and then built back up... It was a rolling chassis (so basically it was bare again) when we rebuilt it over a several year period.
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I'm currently stripping mine and having it soda-blasted down to bare metal. It's just taking longer than I thought to dismantle because I'm bagging and labeling every last nut and bolt.
Two things to remember-
1. Sand blasting warps panels no matter how skilled the worker.
2. Sand is a lot harder to remove from a shell, almost impossible. Even after complete resto, some guys find it flying in their eyes while on the road.
3. Soda blasting is non-toxic, and better for the environment than sand (silica) or acid dipping.
4. Acid dipping will remove factory sealing compound as well as protection from the insides of the panels. This is not good. Panels are more likely to start to rust from the inside and behind panels if acid dipped.
5. These cars come from the factory with a high quality under-coating and galvanized panels, keep that in mind! A good soda blaster can keep the galvanization on the steel, even after blasting the paint off
edit: that was more than two things...
Two things to remember-
1. Sand blasting warps panels no matter how skilled the worker.
2. Sand is a lot harder to remove from a shell, almost impossible. Even after complete resto, some guys find it flying in their eyes while on the road.
3. Soda blasting is non-toxic, and better for the environment than sand (silica) or acid dipping.
4. Acid dipping will remove factory sealing compound as well as protection from the insides of the panels. This is not good. Panels are more likely to start to rust from the inside and behind panels if acid dipped.
5. These cars come from the factory with a high quality under-coating and galvanized panels, keep that in mind! A good soda blaster can keep the galvanization on the steel, even after blasting the paint off
edit: that was more than two things...
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I haven't gone that far, but I stayed at a holidy in express last night.
Mine is definately in the low 4th order. I've redone evreything but the transmission
My SWAG:
First Order: Drive and maintenance.
Second Order: Put some extra stuff right, while you're in there. Maybe wheels/tires.
Third Order: Major Work. suspension refresh, weatherstripping, etc. Mainly mechanical disassembly and touch-up. Maybe a single subsystem.
Fourth Order: Major Work^2. Motor rebuilds, Interior remake, complete suspension, weatherstripping, etc. Several systems. May involve light bodywork. No resprays.
Fifth Order: Pull strip nut and bolt takes years and years.
Mine is definately in the low 4th order. I've redone evreything but the transmission
My SWAG:
First Order: Drive and maintenance.
Second Order: Put some extra stuff right, while you're in there. Maybe wheels/tires.
Third Order: Major Work. suspension refresh, weatherstripping, etc. Mainly mechanical disassembly and touch-up. Maybe a single subsystem.
Fourth Order: Major Work^2. Motor rebuilds, Interior remake, complete suspension, weatherstripping, etc. Several systems. May involve light bodywork. No resprays.
Fifth Order: Pull strip nut and bolt takes years and years.
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Unless you have nothing better to do, are immortal, thoroughly enjoy doing this sort of thing, must do it, and have lots of money, I would take the advice of a wise man who once advised me that the best way to restore a car was to purchase it from the owner of one after he won his class at a Concours. Just as soon as he knows he has won, walk up and offer cash. He will probably take it simply to re-join the human race, and you will spare yourself the pain of enduring what he had just endured, as well as saving immense amounts of cash and time.
I did it with a Porsche Speedster. Would I do it again? If you grant me one wish: that I will live another two hundred years in wealth and splendor, and with an understanding female companion. Then I MIGHT think about it. Otherwise, I would go to the next Porsche Parade with a bag full of cash and search for one among the Concours participants.
I did it with a Porsche Speedster. Would I do it again? If you grant me one wish: that I will live another two hundred years in wealth and splendor, and with an understanding female companion. Then I MIGHT think about it. Otherwise, I would go to the next Porsche Parade with a bag full of cash and search for one among the Concours participants.
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now that is funny.
Owning a 928 is nothing but irrational. I love mine.
That goes with any of these types of cars. I've even considered dumping my motorless 914 (with a significant investment in everything else) cheap, but my wife told me to keep it.
I think I'll keep her, too.
Owning a 928 is nothing but irrational. I love mine.
That goes with any of these types of cars. I've even considered dumping my motorless 914 (with a significant investment in everything else) cheap, but my wife told me to keep it.
I think I'll keep her, too.
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Nope. Manual GTS is almost completely bare on outside but it has windows and most of the interior still in. Automatic GTS could use total rebuild but only urgent needs like engine tear down for second time this year will have to do as I'd like to drive it later this year.
I know one local who has done almost full rebuild twice. Once for early S rebuild and once for 4.5L race car conversion. Its so much work to strip body to bare metal and put everything back way it was that I don't ever want to do it.
I know one local who has done almost full rebuild twice. Once for early S rebuild and once for 4.5L race car conversion. Its so much work to strip body to bare metal and put everything back way it was that I don't ever want to do it.