Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

The ***MOST*** Restored 928???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-10-2009, 07:37 PM
  #1  
nsantolick
Pro
Thread Starter
 
nsantolick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Rittenhouse Neighborhood
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question The ***MOST*** Restored 928???

Curious if anyone has restored/race prepped a 928, stripping it until it's COMPLETELY disassembled. Just the main body shell, etc.

How about with any other cars?

Just curious as to how far someones gone with this sort of thing.












Nick - 89 S4 Auto - OEM Seemingly Cursed Object Package - Still Love It...
Old 07-10-2009, 07:45 PM
  #2  
IcemanG17
Race Director
 
IcemanG17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Stockton, CA
Posts: 16,270
Received 75 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

Mark Andersons current racer was done to the frame then built up from there
Old 07-10-2009, 07:59 PM
  #3  
S4ordie
Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Rennlist Member
 
S4ordie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chandler, AZ, USA, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 8,856
Received 335 Likes on 195 Posts
Default

Totally restored my 1966 Sunbeam Tiger to concurs quality. Two years - full rotisserie, every nut/bolt/nub removed. Painful not sure I would do it again. Always better to pay someone else or better - to buy one already completed.
Old 07-10-2009, 08:55 PM
  #4  
karl ruiter
Rennlist Member
 
karl ruiter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Honolulu and sometimes L.A.
Posts: 3,359
Received 190 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Brendon, probably.
Old 07-10-2009, 09:01 PM
  #5  
Rob Edwards
Archive Gatekeeper
Rennlist Member
 
Rob Edwards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 17,495
Received 2,707 Likes on 1,310 Posts
Default

Somewhere in the archives there's a white (green) '79 that IIRC was more or less a nut n bolt restoration. Will try to find it.
Old 07-10-2009, 09:21 PM
  #6  
pcar928fan
Nordschleife Master
 
pcar928fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 9,337
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

My race car was one of Mark Anderson's first and it was done that way. Stripped completely bare and then built back up... It was a rolling chassis (so basically it was bare again) when we rebuilt it over a several year period.
Old 07-10-2009, 09:45 PM
  #7  
BBX
Rennlist Member
 
BBX's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, Ca
Posts: 967
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm currently stripping mine and having it soda-blasted down to bare metal. It's just taking longer than I thought to dismantle because I'm bagging and labeling every last nut and bolt.

Two things to remember-
1. Sand blasting warps panels no matter how skilled the worker.
2. Sand is a lot harder to remove from a shell, almost impossible. Even after complete resto, some guys find it flying in their eyes while on the road.
3. Soda blasting is non-toxic, and better for the environment than sand (silica) or acid dipping.
4. Acid dipping will remove factory sealing compound as well as protection from the insides of the panels. This is not good. Panels are more likely to start to rust from the inside and behind panels if acid dipped.
5. These cars come from the factory with a high quality under-coating and galvanized panels, keep that in mind! A good soda blaster can keep the galvanization on the steel, even after blasting the paint off

edit: that was more than two things...
Old 07-10-2009, 10:22 PM
  #8  
fraggle
Rennlist Member
 
fraggle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bristow, VA
Posts: 3,402
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I haven't gone that far, but I stayed at a holidy in express last night.

Mine is definately in the low 4th order. I've redone evreything but the transmission

My SWAG:

First Order: Drive and maintenance.
Second Order: Put some extra stuff right, while you're in there. Maybe wheels/tires.
Third Order: Major Work. suspension refresh, weatherstripping, etc. Mainly mechanical disassembly and touch-up. Maybe a single subsystem.
Fourth Order: Major Work^2. Motor rebuilds, Interior remake, complete suspension, weatherstripping, etc. Several systems. May involve light bodywork. No resprays.
Fifth Order: Pull strip nut and bolt takes years and years.
Old 07-10-2009, 10:49 PM
  #9  
Ron_H
928 Barrister
Rennlist Member

 
Ron_H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 4,772
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Unless you have nothing better to do, are immortal, thoroughly enjoy doing this sort of thing, must do it, and have lots of money, I would take the advice of a wise man who once advised me that the best way to restore a car was to purchase it from the owner of one after he won his class at a Concours. Just as soon as he knows he has won, walk up and offer cash. He will probably take it simply to re-join the human race, and you will spare yourself the pain of enduring what he had just endured, as well as saving immense amounts of cash and time.

I did it with a Porsche Speedster. Would I do it again? If you grant me one wish: that I will live another two hundred years in wealth and splendor, and with an understanding female companion. Then I MIGHT think about it. Otherwise, I would go to the next Porsche Parade with a bag full of cash and search for one among the Concours participants.
Old 07-10-2009, 11:05 PM
  #10  
fraggle
Rennlist Member
 
fraggle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bristow, VA
Posts: 3,402
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

now that is funny.

Owning a 928 is nothing but irrational. I love mine.

That goes with any of these types of cars. I've even considered dumping my motorless 914 (with a significant investment in everything else) cheap, but my wife told me to keep it.

I think I'll keep her, too.
Old 07-11-2009, 12:28 AM
  #11  
Andre Hedrick
Rest in Peace
Rennlist Member
 
Andre Hedrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 5,384
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

It was for sale on autoscout.de about two years back.

Complete tear down and acid bath, and they wanted 30K euro's iirc.
Old 07-11-2009, 12:00 PM
  #12  
Mark Anderson
The Parts Whisperer
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Mark Anderson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Anaheim Ca
Posts: 7,061
Received 366 Likes on 176 Posts
Default tub

In my case I went all the way
Attached Images  
Old 07-11-2009, 01:07 PM
  #13  
BC
Rennlist Member
 
BC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 25,148
Received 79 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ject-78-a.html
Old 07-11-2009, 01:18 PM
  #14  
Stromius
Three Wheelin'
 
Stromius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Bellevue, WA
Posts: 1,306
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Erkka (Vilhauer)?
Old 07-11-2009, 06:07 PM
  #15  
Vilhuer
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Vilhuer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 9,378
Likes: 0
Received 60 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Nope. Manual GTS is almost completely bare on outside but it has windows and most of the interior still in. Automatic GTS could use total rebuild but only urgent needs like engine tear down for second time this year will have to do as I'd like to drive it later this year.

I know one local who has done almost full rebuild twice. Once for early S rebuild and once for 4.5L race car conversion. Its so much work to strip body to bare metal and put everything back way it was that I don't ever want to do it.


Quick Reply: The ***MOST*** Restored 928???



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:44 PM.