WTF...Water Pumps!
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WTF...Water Pumps!
I'm done screwing around with fricking water pumps.
I used 928 International rebuilt pumps for years. Had a grand total of 4 fail...all leaked....none fell apart or seized. I relaced every one...on my own nickel...sure, they replaced the pump, but I personally provided the labor.
The recent "rash" of rebuilt pumps falling apart scared the crap out of me...so I personally took all the different pumps apart and inspected them. The factory pumps are the best, there is no doubt about it, but they are expensive.
The Lasco pumps looked really good. Not as good as the factory water pumps...but close. Good bearings, good pulley, nice tight fit on the impeller and the pulley. The impeller is cast, while the factory one is forged. The aluminum "casting" is rougher, but who cares? Well, I guess I do, now!
Well, I just had the very first Lasco pump I installed seize on a stroker motor, while on the dyno. The car has a few hundred miles on it...no signs of problems. Huge squeal from the belt area. Temperature went nuts, instantly! Got it shut down and the belt took a beating, but hung in there. The engine is still fine...but water pumps don't change themselves, very fast!
I'm over this crap. I'm only using brand new, factory pumps on all my engines, from here on out!
I used 928 International rebuilt pumps for years. Had a grand total of 4 fail...all leaked....none fell apart or seized. I relaced every one...on my own nickel...sure, they replaced the pump, but I personally provided the labor.
The recent "rash" of rebuilt pumps falling apart scared the crap out of me...so I personally took all the different pumps apart and inspected them. The factory pumps are the best, there is no doubt about it, but they are expensive.
The Lasco pumps looked really good. Not as good as the factory water pumps...but close. Good bearings, good pulley, nice tight fit on the impeller and the pulley. The impeller is cast, while the factory one is forged. The aluminum "casting" is rougher, but who cares? Well, I guess I do, now!
Well, I just had the very first Lasco pump I installed seize on a stroker motor, while on the dyno. The car has a few hundred miles on it...no signs of problems. Huge squeal from the belt area. Temperature went nuts, instantly! Got it shut down and the belt took a beating, but hung in there. The engine is still fine...but water pumps don't change themselves, very fast!
I'm over this crap. I'm only using brand new, factory pumps on all my engines, from here on out!
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No, they probably are plastic...but I've only ever had one of those fail. That seems to be better odds than what I'm dealing with.
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The one I took apart was an older metal impeller.
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Yeah, 40 years of racing has made me pretty quick....turning the key off....no sitting around wondering what the hell that noise could be!
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Unreal! Glad you caught it. Ive been the innocent passenger on the failed water pump ride too!
Not fun doing a timing belt, especially if it is on a stock car!
anyway, everyone wondered why i didnt change the pump when I did the motor. thats why. If you find a good one, hold on to it and never change it until is dies its slow death! I had a bunch of them fail, including the porsche factory version. (plastic impeller came off the shaft) . the rest leaked, impeller came off shaft or made a bunch of noise.
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Not fun doing a timing belt, especially if it is on a stock car!
anyway, everyone wondered why i didnt change the pump when I did the motor. thats why. If you find a good one, hold on to it and never change it until is dies its slow death! I had a bunch of them fail, including the porsche factory version. (plastic impeller came off the shaft) . the rest leaked, impeller came off shaft or made a bunch of noise.
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anyway, everyone wondered why i didnt change the pump when I did the motor. thats why. If you find a good one, hold on to it and never change it until is dies its slow death! I had a bunch of them fail, including the porsche factory version. (plastic impeller came off the shaft) . the rest leaked, impeller came off shaft or made a bunch of noise.
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I was under the impression that "new" Porsche water pumps were napping with the Dodo bird (i.e. NLA) and that you got a rebuilt plastic impeller water pump (from the same guys that rebuild 928 Internationals') when you ordered one from PCNA?
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When the engine was out there were no leaks, and the pump turned very smooth and free. So far so good!