robot808

Oh, now was that "Old Bugger" or ""Old Bugger"" or ""Old" AND "Bugger""?

Cosmo Kramer

I have noticed that most people hear refer to anything pre S4 as OB's, meaning Old Bugger or Original Body.

Lizard928

I think of it as old body, or origonal body. So anything Pre S4.

bcdavis

^^^

I am with Lizard on this one.

I always thought of OB as meaning "Original Body" or "Old Body"

Few people care about the distinction between the very early cars, and the other models. But it's much more common for people to discuss the differences between the early, pre-s4 models, and the later ones. It's a much bigger dividing line, that deserves a term...

It's just as easy to say you have an old CIS car, if that's what you have.

linderpat

ditto here

bcdavis

^^^

I am with Lizard on this one.

I always thought of OB as meaning "Original Body" or "Old Body"

And even if the term is indeed "Old Bugger", that could refer to all the pre-s4 bodied cars...

Few people care about the distinction between the very early cars, and the other models.
But it's much more common for people to discuss the differences between the early,
pre-s4 models, and the later ones. It's a much bigger dividing line, that deserves a term...

It's just as easy to say you have an old CIS car, if that's what you have.
But OB is a good term to define ALL the old cars made before the change
in body and engine that defines the "S4" generation of 928s.

Lizard928

More people pay attention to the outside details, and major apperance details, as suppose to what fuel inj system the car has.

Heck most owners I talk to have NO idea what fueling system is in there car. Umm I turn the key and it starts is there reaction!

BC

Well, people can think as they choose, but the original idea was that the "old Buggers" were the CIS cars. 2 years only. Vacuum operated door locks, CIS, and all sorts of wierd mid-year (mid day!) changes to the cars, panels with wierd configurations, etc. Usually with no sunroof, no rubstrips, and manual transmission. Battery attached to the transmission instead of the body.

If the question is about the original usage, thats what it is. I would never consider an 80+ car an old bugger.

mark kibort

you know, you are probalbly right. OBs were thougth to be 78-80 cars.

whats up with the battery connected to the transmission? I had the 79 OB and it had a normal battery box. (didnt it? )

can i change my vote to 78-80 years?

mk

mark kibort

you know, you are probalbly right. OBs were thougth to be 78-80 cars.

whats up with the battery connected to the transmission? I had the 79 OB and it had a normal battery box. (didnt it? )

can i change my vote to 78-80 years?

mk

RicerSchnitzzle

So an OB is an S-zero? Then S-one (US 82-84), S-two (Euro S, even though it was before the US S-one), S-Three (US 85-86) and S-four (87+)< followed by the GT And GTS.

With the 78-79 rule, it leaves US 80-81 un-loved.

ShawnSmith

As I recall it, Porsche folks momentarily thought it'd be a great idea to use the battery as a mass-damper for the drivetrain... forgetting that although it worked, it also tended to ruin battery life since they prefer to not be constantly shaken violently

djurek

Oh no here we go again.

Sailmed

Fixed it for ya....

BC

It leaves 80, 81, 82, 84, and 84 as unloved - as it always has been, and a heated email exchange happend over this issue in 2001.