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Old 12-03-2008 | 11:57 PM
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Thunderhill 24hours of lemons contender doing some testing at T-hill during the NCRC event
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Old 12-04-2008 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by stolarzj
I'm in for the South Carolina event, I'd be happy to help in the pits.
Thank you, may the flogging began!

Originally Posted by WallyP
Mike, I think that we could get a team together for the South Carolina event...
Thank you Wally,
It has been mentioned by a couple of the other drivers as well that your presence and driving - in and of itself - is quite an honor Sir!
As long as they don't start deducting points - and even if they do - we shall still prevail!

Originally Posted by LeoDioxide
If you guys pull it together for south carolina, be sure to let me know so I can come out and see it!
Spectators are charged double unless you leave hoarse from cheering...
and if thats the case I'm sure we can arrange filing the Doctors ordered DX of "just drink more beer and stop whinning"

Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
Perhaps some used old aftermarket springs might just be available .....somewhere. S-4 springs are just slightly stronger than early springs.
Mr Bailey..... Uhhm... do you happen to have a idea of where springs of such a nature might be acquired?????
Old 12-12-2008 | 12:43 PM
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Mike, what is your schedule for Sun? We need to get together to hash out the details, budget, etc. Call me or Tarek and let us know if your available.


Here are the roll cage specs. Sounds pretty straight forward. We need to figure out if we are gonna have a sub 3000 lb car so we can use the lighter tubing.

3.1: Rollbar and Structure: Professionally made six-point roll cage (main hoop behind the driver’s seat from the left-side floor, up to the roof, across the car as near to the roof as possible, and back down to the right-side floor; two rearward supporting main-hoop braces; two braces extending from the top of the main hoop to the top of the windshield area; two main members extending down the A-pillars to the floor at both sides; a bar at the top of the windshield area connecting the two forward braces; one driver’s side door bar; and appropriate crossmembers and braces) or better mandatory, AutoPower or better. (For a good source of premade bars, try I/O Port Racing or AutoPower online. I/O Port also sells good, reasonably priced bars and belts and suits and other racey-type stuff.) For ratty-arsed cars that are too unpopular to have spawned mass-produced bars--meaning most of the junk we're running here--contact local racing and speed shops to arrange a hand-bent installation. We really like Mitch Parella in El Cerrito, at 510.526.5003; Chris Overzet in Discover Bay, at 925.382.1058; and David Racing Products in Modesto, at 209.522.6370, but you can get 'em done all over the place. Shoulder-harness bars strongly encouraged, and virtually necessary for proper shoulder-harness mounting in some applications. Additional diagonals strongly encouraged.
3.1.1: Rollbar Tubing and Padding: Minimum tubing size for cars weighing under 3000 pounds as raced is 1.50” x .120” or 1.75” x .095”. Cars weighing over 3000 pounds as raced must use a minimum tubing size of 1.75” x .120”. DOM mild steel strongly suggested. No muffler tubing, no water pipe, no electrical conduit, etc. All tubing connections to the car must have proper mounting plates of appropriate size and thickness. Additional gussetting and bracing is strongly encouraged. (Don’t understand any of the above? See where it states “Professionally made.”) All roll cage tubing must be padded with high density roll bar padding wherever your head, arms or legs may contact.
Old 12-12-2008 | 12:58 PM
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The car should easily be less than 3,000 lbs..... but strip it out and haul it to a scale just to be sure.....plus do they actually weigh the cars ????
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Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
The car should easily be less than 3,000 lbs..... but strip it out and haul it to a scale just to be sure.....plus do they actually weigh the cars ????

Yeah, I was thinking that the 78 should be pretty easy to get under 3000lbs but I wouldn't want to assume anything and get the whole team disqualified. I think I would be beaten beyond recognition with a broken timing belt if that happened.

The spec is 3000lbs "as raced". Does that include fluids? Driver? You do race with a driver and fluids. Can anyone clarify this point?
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Usually that is the car less driver for MOST organizations......but I know of a Tech Inspector and will ask that question....
Old 12-12-2008 | 01:58 PM
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Fluids are the beer in the back or bladder depends on if it's land shark beer,right Mike?
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Originally Posted by Tampa 928s
Fluids are the beer in the back or bladder depends on if it's land shark beer,right Mike?

Don't encourage him. It's going to be hard enough to keep him from partying for the 24 hours of the race without you egging him on.
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Case o' Bier in the battery box/rear area helps with traction.
Old 12-12-2008 | 03:48 PM
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I'm still in. LEt me know if you plan a wrenching weekend early January and I'll drive down to Tampa. The Shark needs a 5 hour road trip on 10 to stretch it's legs.
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Originally Posted by RicerSchnitzzle
I'm still in. LEt me know if you plan a wrenching weekend early January and I'll drive down to Tampa. The Shark needs a 5 hour road trip on 10 to stretch it's legs.
The car is in Arcadia. Add another two hours to the trip. I don't forsee it coming to central FL until its time for me to build the cage.
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They didn't weigh our car, but then we were in the flyweight class. With a dreadnought like the 928 they might bring out the scales. Nah, you'll be running against Cadillacs and police interceptors - you're a flyweight compared to them! FWIW go with the 1.75" tubing. You'll end up with a lighter cage.
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The 1.75 x .095 looks better and is maybe 5 - 6% lighter per foot ...
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Originally Posted by shmark
They didn't weigh our car, but then we were in the flyweight class. With a dreadnought like the 928 they might bring out the scales. Nah, you'll be running against Cadillacs and police interceptors - you're a flyweight compared to them! FWIW go with the 1.75" tubing. You'll end up with a lighter cage.
Do all the cars run at once? Are there sessions? Do you run the 24 hours in one shot or is it broken up? Please enlighten us so we are not complete NOOB's when we get there.

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Old 12-17-2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Fabio421
Please enlighten us so we are not complete NOOB's when we get there. Thanks
Don't go looking for respect on me this early in the game.
Originally Posted by Fabio421
You do race with a driver and fluids. Can anyone clarify this point?
This driver races with fluids = landshark. Did that help?

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