Rob Edwards

Fixed that for you.

Dan_N

Funny and true.

marton

Will you take a cheque?

Marton

Jim bailey - 928 International

That you were just trying to catch up with the other 928s in front of you !!

dr bob

Fixed that for ya! Don't rat on your buds, man. Besides, if he starts thinking 944 as he writes the ticket, maybe it won't be your car you were driving.

SharkSkin

"Never interrupt an enemy while he is making a mistake"
-Sun Tzu

Ron_H

Hate to pop your balloon but don't count on escaping because of errors like that on the citation. After all, you're there in court aren't you? The car is not accused of doing anything. When I was a process server, we never worried about making a minor clerical mistake or served the wrong person. so long as the party appeared in court to say it wasn't the right name or whatever on the document. He comes to court to say we served the wrong person? The intended person is standing before the judge as he says it. The prosecution will be given leave to amend the complaint right there. And if you don't show up, they like that even more. Breaks the boredom and you get to sample county food for awhile, after they pull you over for no front license plate or whatever.

PorKen

I saw that show. They put a homemade IR light array in place of the plate on the front of a Suburban. Correct frequency, but not modulated, so the laser gun wasn't fooled. Plus a reading could be had from the headlamps, windsheild, etc.

Low profile cars, in dark colors are difficult to get a reading on (low reflectivity). A laser jammer will increase the difficulty.

My SR-X jammers have worked well. If you have a white car, put a bra on!

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If you do get lights flashing behind you:

Pull over immediately! Test out the cruiser's brakes. (They are usually tailgating.) Don't look for a safe spot up ahead, or pull into a parking lot. Pull over right now as if you are letting him pass. Block traffic! It's difficult to train yourself to not do, but nicely pulling over admits guilt, and may make the officer call for backup if you travel too far. An unsafe parking spot may make the officer let you go so he doesn't have to spend time in that bad spot.

Don't answer any leading questions, like: 'is there any reason you were going so fast?'. Anything you say gets written down. (You'll find it in the notes on the back of the ticket.)

Ron_H

Yes, and those notes are the officer's impression about you. You want him/her to forget about you ideally. Don't give him any reason to remember more than he must. And certainly don't give him any reason to hate you. He probably already hates you if he is envious of your ride. And to help you avoid creating any reason for him to hate you, try not to hate him. After all maybe he needs his vision checked or why would he be stopping you, right? Hey, policemen make mistakes just like anyone else, right? Give him a good attitude ......until you get to court. You also have the right to see that citation (both sides) and any other notes the officer made after the bust BEFORE you go to court. It is usually the only evidence the state has against you except for the attitude of the police officer in court. But while we're on the subject, I've heard of some people who keep a small tape recorder handy and activate it when the cop approaches the car. It is best if you tell him you are recording the conversation if you plan to introduce it in court. Otherwise, it may be best to keep that recording to yourself but it may be compared to the notes on the back of the citation, but not used in court. If you know he's lying (aw sh*t, sorry! A policeman wouldn't lie now would he?) at least you're prepared to overcome that fact.

Ron_H

Where's Brother Heinrich? He has a jammer....er...ah....a countermeasure instrument in his .........equipment he keeps in one of his cars doesn't he? Well, whatever it is, he praises it no end. Ask him how it works. Where are you Heinrich???

And here's another fun thing: a mirror that acts like a "Wink" (but is not a Wink) because it lets you see not only to the rear but both blind spots in one unbroken plane. But that's not all it does. It has a GPS thingie in it that alerts you to known speed traps and cameras well before you reach them. A product of the UK. This sounds like something the Brits did right. I haven't seen one yet but will soon. A friend is using it and says it works like a charm. I will report more as I discover more. He is using it in SoCal or I would be all over it by now. It costs about $200 or $300. A citation costs about $2000 to $3000 depending on who deals with it and the outcome (insurance rate increase or your time and headache). It can cost five times that like the one of which I know that will soon be heard by the Utah Supreme Court. Stay tuned.

Stromius

"Gee officer I didn't know how fast I was going.I was afraid to take my eyes off the road and look down at the speedo since I was going so fast. How fast was I going? 85? Wow I am sure I was going WAY faster!"

SharkSkin

Those won't do it alone, but if you choose to take the approach of impeaching the the cop as an incompetent witness, those little things can help make your case.

Ron_H

I used to think that. I lost. Especially if the judge was an ex-cop. Of course if more than one example of his lack of attention surfaced I suppose the court might take notice. Once in Oregon the cop wrote the wrong color. I smiled but not for long 'cause it was easily "corrected" in court. Again, I am standing in front of the judge, he asks me the correct color, the record is corrected, and the case against me moves forward: " How do you plead Mr. Bad Guy?".
There are stronger defenses available. And more than one should be ready at trial, that's for sure. One of them is to keep the cop from testifying period. No testimony=no case. All pau for the state.

Fabio421

So if the cop rear ends you while tailgating you and scaring the ish out of you, do you think that will help or hurt you. Technically he is following too closely and must be cited, right?

dr bob

I thing Ed Ruiz went through this half a dozen years ago in Va. His GT was crunched by the officer who failed to stop in time. Took months to get the car fixed, was repaired at county expense, citation was dropped. Ed ended up with a 'fixed' car after driving a rental for the repair month, had to go fight for the less-than-stellar settlement too IIRC. Not worth it. Many moons ago, when I drove a Lotus Europa as a DD and managed to get pulled over an average of once a day it seemed, I did the move-immediately-to-the-shoulder while standing on the brakes trick to a CHP who was not at all amused. He kept on going past me with brakes squealing, then proceeded to back up to my car so fast I had to back up to avoid being hit. He kept coming, I kept backing until he finally gace up and jumped out with gun drawn. We had a very serious discussion there and again in court about his behavior. He got slapped, but still not worth the danger in my book. If you are obviously being an *******, you can only expect the same treatment from them.

I'm a white-haired professional in a 928 now. Grown up some.