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Old 02-22-2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
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For the love of God, don't put Tim on too high of a pedestal. I know him personally, and wel... I better shutup.
Andrew, BTW... we were sorting out sleeping arrangements for the April GTG and we have you sleeping on the couch in the shop
Old 02-22-2008, 01:03 PM
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Thurston,

Chuck told me you were doing the WB O2....tonight Friday...

JT
Old 02-22-2008, 01:04 PM
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That's ok... Z and I will probably end up staying up until 5am anyway figuring out why the 85/86 car won't run.
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If i were the RT guys, this is what i would focus on as far as asthetics.
Move or rotate that blowoff valve so you cant see it.(bottom pic) The rest is fine. The turbines actually look pretty cool back there and as pointed you wont even see them just walking around the car.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:11 PM
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Where does the methonal system hook in? Id imagine in this application it would be VERY effective at cooling the air. On my TS i saw a drastic change in inlet temps but those gains werent realized all the way through the system.

As a side note Tom, i have one on my car that i have disconnected,(SnowPerformance) it has the MAF controller as well. I may consider selling it to you guys if interested. I have two jets for it also.

My concern, living in vegas here at least , would be the heat soaking of that long intake tube sitting next to the exhaust under the car in stop and go traffic.

Have you thought about cermamic coating the exterior of that inlet tubing?..or adding exterior cooling fins on it?
Old 02-22-2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 89 928 turbo
Thurston,

Chuck told me you were doing the WB O2....tonight Friday...

JT

Yeah I will be there JT. I was giving Tom ****. The days just not going right if you cant give Tom ****.
Old 02-22-2008, 01:31 PM
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T,

Wanna kill two birds with one stone tonight?
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The Snow's methanol Injection is plumbed into the rubber boot just below the MAF. We really wanted to plumb the supply and pump into the windshield washer resevoir, but like most things on our car, left no room to do it easily since the pump is gravity feed. We utilized the space in the spare tire storage locker, since we pulled the spare out for weight.....for the pump and accessories and a small tank in the boot. At some point it may be worthwhile to attach some version of a temp guage on the intake to get an actual number, but intake air on the dyno (fanned) ahead of the MAF is running between 85-90 degree's with a similar effect as driving and air passage over the charge pipes under the car and an inline cooler might be a good option if one can be found with the same external diameter as the charge pipe. It has a standoff from the exhaust in the stock channel, but if anyone has a source nearer the front?

The overall piping that runs front to back and front again is generally similiar to the stock piping in length but exhaust is upsized to account for total volume of the stock exhaust output when it reachs the turbo.....and is all mandrell bent SS

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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
That's ok... Z and I will probably end up staying up until 5am anyway figuring out why the 85/86 car won't run.
Thats because the key will be in my pocket...

And you guys will have to keep it down since I'll be sleeping in my car...
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Originally Posted by 89 928 turbo
The Snow's methanol Injection is plumbed into the rubber boot just below the MAF. We really wanted to plumb the supply and pump into the windshield washer resevoir, but like most things on our car, left no room to do it easily since the pump is gravity feed. We utilized the space in the spare tire storage locker, since we pulled the spare out for weight.....for the pump and accessories and a small tank in the boot. At some point it may be worthwhile to attach some version of a temp guage on the intake to get an actual number, but intake air on the dyno (fanned) ahead of the MAF is running between 85-90 degree's with a similar effect as driving and air passage over the charge pipes under the car and an inline cooler might be a good option if one can be found with the same external diameter as the charge pipe. It has a standoff from the exhaust in the stock channel, but if anyone has a source nearer the front?

The overall piping that runs front to back and front again is generally similiar to the stock piping in length but exhaust is upsized to account for total volume of the stock exhaust output when it reachs the turbo.....and is all mandrell bent SS
Hi John
Does the exhaust need to be changed to the single pipe system that's shown in the pics a few # back ?
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Originally Posted by 89 928 turbo
The Snow's methanol Injection is plumbed into the rubber boot just below the MAF. We really wanted to plumb the supply and pump into the windshield washer resevoir, but like most things on our car, left no room to do it easily since the pump is gravity feed. We utilized the space in the spare tire storage locker, since we pulled the spare out for weight.....for the pump and accessories and a small tank in the boot. At some point it may be worthwhile to attach some version of a temp guage on the intake to get an actual number, but intake air on the dyno (fanned) ahead of the MAF is running between 85-90 degree's with a similar effect as driving and air passage over the charge pipes under the car and an inline cooler might be a good option if one can be found with the same external diameter as the charge pipe. It has a standoff from the exhaust in the stock channel, but if anyone has a source nearer the front?

The overall piping that runs front to back and front again is generally similiar to the stock piping in length but exhaust is upsized to account for total volume of the stock exhaust output when it reachs the turbo.....and is all mandrell bent SS
Hi John
Does a twin pipe stock exhaust need to be changed to the single pipe system that's shown in the pics a few # back ?
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Originally Posted by Tony
If i were the RT guys, this is what i would focus on as far as asthetics.
Move or rotate that blowoff valve so you cant see it.(bottom pic) The rest is fine. The turbines actually look pretty cool back there and as pointed you wont even see them just walking around the car.

Is that a BOV or a wastegate? Looks like a wastegate to me. Either way, I agree, having the BOV or the wastegate that low is asking for trouble. The last thing you want in a turbo system is a damaged wastegate (either no boost or limitless boost). I assume the turbos most folks have in mind will require an external wastegate, though.

With my current exhaust set up, there's plenty of room for the turbo, wastegate, and a BOV/BPV, above the pipe where the stock primary muffler was, and there's plenty of room above the muffler, too (because the Borla is tiny).
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Originally Posted by John Speake
Hi John
Does a twin pipe stock exhaust need to be changed to the single pipe system that's shown in the pics a few # back ?
twin pipes = twin turbos.
Old 02-22-2008, 02:21 PM
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You are trying to minimize the volume of the plumbing into the turbo as well as maximizing the heat to transfer as much energy as quickly as you can to the turbo.
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To some degree it's cosmetics, and could be moved, but for now it's how we have it set up....this setup has been on three different cars all road conditions, run hard at the Spokane race days several times and been on two Heckowee's in WA with no much as a bump.....in it's current configuration, clearance is just not an issue.


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