New remote turbo thread
02-20-2008, 01:48 PM
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(Typical S4 numbers are crap.) 
(My '81 with a proper (not too big) exhaust puts down more torque than that, and with '79 cams...)
(My well tuned 86.5 puts out the same numbers as a stage 1 85/86.)
What was my point? Oh, yeah... you can get really good numbers out of a 928, just by getting it back to stock tune, plus a little tweaking. Put another way, many of the stage 1 (turbo)superchargers are basically making up for ineffecient exhausts, or bad tuning.
What's with all these SS/chromed pipes, monster turbos, intercoolers stuck everywhere. Cutting the body? Lame.
What I'd like to see is a CHEAP, I mean Walmart cheap, Stage 1 OB rear turbo that can give a well tuned car that extra edge. Stock L/LH2.2 24# injectors. Cheap turbo. No intercooler. Self contained oiling/cooling. Aluminized steel pipes. You wanna upgrade? Get a Stage 2, fool!
Don't make me get out my welder.
(My '81 with a proper (not too big) exhaust puts down more torque than that, and with '79 cams...)
(My well tuned 86.5 puts out the same numbers as a stage 1 85/86.)
What was my point? Oh, yeah... you can get really good numbers out of a 928, just by getting it back to stock tune, plus a little tweaking. Put another way, many of the stage 1 (turbo)superchargers are basically making up for ineffecient exhausts, or bad tuning.
What's with all these SS/chromed pipes, monster turbos, intercoolers stuck everywhere. Cutting the body? Lame.
What I'd like to see is a CHEAP, I mean Walmart cheap, Stage 1 OB rear turbo that can give a well tuned car that extra edge. Stock L/LH2.2 24# injectors. Cheap turbo. No intercooler. Self contained oiling/cooling. Aluminized steel pipes. You wanna upgrade? Get a Stage 2, fool!
Don't make me get out my welder.
And put a muffler on those things...
Gotta be a way to quiet it down a notch or two...
Do that and I'll buy one...
02-20-2008, 01:50 PM
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Porken,
The Murf stage 1 S4 is 400rwhp (SAE), the 85/86 will not be far behind (if at all).
Not all stage 1 kits are the same
The Murf stage 1 S4 is 400rwhp (SAE), the 85/86 will not be far behind (if at all).
Not all stage 1 kits are the same
02-20-2008, 01:57 PM
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I know you mentioned Murf's kit before and Tim responded on his thread.
For whatever its worth, a Centrifugal SC is my absolute least favorite way to get boost. Well maybe an olds Roots is worse, but I dont like the centrifugal, dont like the way it looks on the car don't like the way they sound just dont like them. Why, I dont really know, I just want something different.
I'm sure its a great product, but at this point i would prefer something else.
I know you mentioned Murf's kit before and Tim responded on his thread.
For whatever its worth, a Centrifugal SC is my absolute least favorite way to get boost. Well maybe an olds Roots is worse, but I dont like the centrifugal, dont like the way it looks on the car don't like the way they sound just dont like them. Why, I dont really know, I just want something different.
I'm sure its a great product, but at this point i would prefer something else.
02-20-2008, 01:58 PM
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But we'll never know, because Shane is going straight to stage 5, or something.
I'd need only 70ish rwhp for 400. An eRam would do that.
02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
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02-20-2008, 03:27 PM
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For whatever its worth, a Centrifugal SC is my absolute least favorite way to get boost. Well maybe an olds Roots is worse, but I dont like the centrifugal, dont like the way it looks on the car don't like the way they sound just dont like them. Why, I dont really know, I just want something different.
02-20-2008, 03:28 PM
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(It clicks here for chart.) STP correction, -7hp, and -10tq for SAE
It's all about the properly sized exhaust.
I think Shane means a muffler after the turbo.
02-20-2008, 03:36 PM
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Ken....Your 81 made 270hp and 270 ft-lbs..wow..impressive..what's the dyno curve look like?..
214 rwhp / 277 rwtq sae (It clicks here for chart.) STP correction, -7hp, and -10tq for SAE
Did that torque peak come from the initial convertor mult. at the start of the run?..the graph seems to show that..but the later peak is only a bit smaller..either way..the S 4.7 motors were torque monsters...stock rated at 267ft-lbs.....
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Shane..you did mention this before
I think Shane means a muffler after the turbo.
Not sure where..but not much room after obviously...would think one before wouldn't affect it too much..
Originally Posted by Tom. M View Post
Ken....Your 81 made 270hp and 270 ft-lbs..wow..impressive..what's the dyno curve look like?..
214 rwhp / 277 rwtq sae (It clicks here for chart.) STP correction, -7hp, and -10tq for SAE
Did that torque peak come from the initial convertor mult. at the start of the run?..the graph seems to show that..but the later peak is only a bit smaller..either way..the S 4.7 motors were torque monsters...stock rated at 267ft-lbs.....
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Shane..you did mention this before
I think Shane means a muffler after the turbo.
Not sure where..but not much room after obviously...would think one before wouldn't affect it too much..
02-20-2008, 03:41 PM
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The stock '81 4.5 was rated at 256 crank torque. (265 is a WSM typo.)
I'm making 277 + 18% = 327 ctq sae, with basic mods.
02-20-2008, 05:38 PM
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What kind of people are you hangn' around huh??????? j/k
02-20-2008, 05:41 PM
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