82 Track Car tear down begins
01-28-2008, 12:28 PM
#32
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TOM!! heat gun!! trust me, you have to warm the area an the stuff just peels right off. (especially in the fuel tank area) the tar behind the seat in the rear seat area, is tough and that needs heat as well and is the most "gooewy" of the 3 areas. (trunk, rear seat/tunnel and front floor) . with the heat, the puddy knife will peal it right off. torch is too hot too quick,as you need to warm the area, not burn the surface. 
if you have any left, try the heat gun. heat gun in your left hand moving in circles, and puddy knife in right. it does go pretty quick. that rear fuel tank are is the easiest, as the stuff is in "blocks" and comes off in about 5 min for the entire area.
mk
if you have any left, try the heat gun. heat gun in your left hand moving in circles, and puddy knife in right. it does go pretty quick. that rear fuel tank are is the easiest, as the stuff is in "blocks" and comes off in about 5 min for the entire area.
mk
Well...spent a few hours at it again today and was able to get some of the tar stuff off. Started at the tank area and just started picking at it with a strong putty knife. It came up really easy in big chunks (it was cold here so that probably helped). Took about 1/2 hour or so for that section. Then I went to the passenger side behind the front seat. Started there and just using the putty knife..that back part took about 2 hours or so. Most of the problems were when I encountered the body sealant for those big circular plugs..the tar just stuck way too hard. After that John Davis popped out to lend a hand. We tried a heat gun at first..but that was slow going so we broke out a torch and heated up a few sections along the tranny tunnel...and they came off really easily. Decided against heating with a torch any more since I had a small leak at the gas tank. We got the car up on the lift and took care of that too...it was just the filter at the outlet of the tank was a little loose..snugged it up and we were good to go.. Also yanked the console, and all the extra wires and electrical stuff leading to the back (defroster, sunroof motor etc.).. after all that I was pretty tired and it was a long day..but felt I made lots of progress. More to come.. 
BTW ..Drew..no worries..please post more pics...it's just inspiration for me... plus we have to get Lizard to start stripping out his interior too LOL..
later,
Tom
89GT
82 Track Car in progress
BTW ..Drew..no worries..please post more pics...it's just inspiration for me...
plus we have to get Lizard to start stripping out his interior too LOL..later,
Tom
89GT
82 Track Car in progress
01-28-2008, 01:25 PM
#33
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Hey Mark... We tried the heat gun..and it did work..but just didn't seem to loosen it that much (maybe the gun wasn't hot enough or I didn't leave it there long enough), but a small hand held propane torch just waved over the area was very easy. It did one panel on the tranny tunnel in literally a minute or so.
Either way (heat gun or torch), it should make quick work of the rest of the car the next time I'm there..then I can concentrate on the other stuff, like cutting out the inner door shell for the cage.
How are all you track car guys doing the door windows? From the looks of it, I can remove everything except the rod the window slides up and down on...and use a hose clamp there to hold up the window when needed?. Any other ways of doing this?..
Later,
Tom
89GT
82 Track Car in progress
Either way (heat gun or torch), it should make quick work of the rest of the car the next time I'm there..then I can concentrate on the other stuff, like cutting out the inner door shell for the cage.
How are all you track car guys doing the door windows? From the looks of it, I can remove everything except the rod the window slides up and down on...and use a hose clamp there to hold up the window when needed?. Any other ways of doing this?..
Later,
Tom
89GT
82 Track Car in progress
01-28-2008, 01:38 PM
#34
Three Wheelin'
Carl Fausett had a novel idea for the window. I wish I knew where the pics are, maybe the master weight loss thread perhaps? It was a belt strap that pulled the bottom of the window up and 'buckled' it at the top.
01-28-2008, 02:29 PM
#35
Nordschleife Master
Im at work so I dont have acces to my files - but doing a quick search - I found this shot from Carls master weight savings thread.
No windows - No panel - No nothing .........
Damn I miss my S4
No windows - No panel - No nothing .........
Damn I miss my S4
Last edited by Drewster67; 12-30-2012 at 11:14 AM.
01-28-2008, 02:36 PM
#36
Three Wheelin'
01-28-2008, 03:04 PM
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Thats how i do my windows. (not quite as nice as carls, but it might be easier in a way) I have a strap that attaches to a clip at the bottom, not a sinch strap.
that way, to pull the windows down or to lower them, i just unhook the strap and the window goes down, as the strap goes over the inside metal panel. doesnt look as good, but it works. pull the window right out, as it comes up with the strap on race day.
mk
that way, to pull the windows down or to lower them, i just unhook the strap and the window goes down, as the strap goes over the inside metal panel. doesnt look as good, but it works. pull the window right out, as it comes up with the strap on race day.
mk
01-28-2008, 03:20 PM
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I think Chuck B has a setup similar to Carl's....I think that is the way I'll go..perhaps replace the glass with lexan or something. I do need the car to be somewhat street legal as I will probably be driving it to events..so I'll be keeping the heater core and fan too...cause there is no misery like driving in a cold car on a wet day LOL..
Thanks guys..
Tom
89GT
82 Track Car
Thanks guys..
Tom
89GT
82 Track Car
01-28-2008, 03:35 PM
#39
Three Wheelin'
Thats how i do my windows. (not quite as nice as carls, but it might be easier in a way) I have a strap that attaches to a clip at the bottom, not a sinch strap.
that way, to pull the windows down or to lower them, i just unhook the strap and the window goes down, as the strap goes over the inside metal panel. doesnt look as good, but it works. pull the window right out, as it comes up with the strap on race day.
mk
that way, to pull the windows down or to lower them, i just unhook the strap and the window goes down, as the strap goes over the inside metal panel. doesnt look as good, but it works. pull the window right out, as it comes up with the strap on race day.
mk
01-28-2008, 05:49 PM
#40
Rennlist Member
why go through the hassel in TRYING to make lexan window, when you already have glass that fits perfect. its very nice to have the windows in the car on the way to the track for noise and temperature of the cabin on cold early morning runs. lexan will vibrate, wont seal right and worst of all, you got to make them!
mk
mk
I think Chuck B has a setup similar to Carl's....I think that is the way I'll go..perhaps replace the glass with lexan or something. I do need the car to be somewhat street legal as I will probably be driving it to events..so I'll be keeping the heater core and fan too...cause there is no misery like driving in a cold car on a wet day LOL..
Thanks guys..
Tom
89GT
82 Track Car
Thanks guys..
Tom
89GT
82 Track Car
Last edited by mark kibort; 01-28-2008 at 06:09 PM.
01-28-2008, 08:55 PM
#42
Race Director
MK's racer is the ultimate "drive to the track" setup......removable stock windows...& a completely removable stereo including a subwoofer that acutally sounds good!! Better than mine anyway!
01-28-2008, 09:31 PM
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Fun stuff.
I actually thought a lot about this whole window thing and after calculating the weight of all the parts, I decided to leave the windows, window switches, widow regulators and the doors intact, except for the interior door panels. For driving to the track I decided that a few pounds was worth my comfort (not too mention being able to lock the doors when leaving it in a public place) to and from the track. Once at the track they were full down.
I figured when the track car went full race I would trailer it to and from the track and gut the doors and windows then. Now it's on someone else's to do list.
I'm surprised to see Mark's car still having the dash and center console in it. That weight would have probably offset the weight of the windows, No?
I actually thought a lot about this whole window thing and after calculating the weight of all the parts, I decided to leave the windows, window switches, widow regulators and the doors intact, except for the interior door panels. For driving to the track I decided that a few pounds was worth my comfort (not too mention being able to lock the doors when leaving it in a public place) to and from the track. Once at the track they were full down.
I figured when the track car went full race I would trailer it to and from the track and gut the doors and windows then. Now it's on someone else's to do list.
I'm surprised to see Mark's car still having the dash and center console in it. That weight would have probably offset the weight of the windows, No?
01-28-2008, 10:03 PM
#45
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all part of the facade. the center console has been completely gutted, and the dash is even more of a facade, just a dash cover. the switches are just glued into place and the radio pulls out. even the window switches are gone, just the tops are glued into place. the dash is only a few ounces, and the centerconsole weighs under 2 lbs without the gear shift leather. I wouldnt be able to race such an eye-sore if the console was not there!
the doors have the windows that are removed and the 1/2 leather panels with the tweeters built in them at the track.
the car weighs just under 2700lbs empty.
mk
the doors have the windows that are removed and the 1/2 leather panels with the tweeters built in them at the track.
the car weighs just under 2700lbs empty.
mk
Fun stuff.
I actually thought a lot about this whole window thing and after calculating the weight of all the parts, I decided to leave the windows, window switches, widow regulators and the doors intact, except for the interior door panels. For driving to the track I decided that a few pounds was worth my comfort (not too mention being able to lock the doors when leaving it in a public place) to and from the track. Once at the track they were full down.
I figured when the track car went full race I would trailer it to and from the track and gut the doors and windows then. Now it's on someone else's to do list.
I'm surprised to see Mark's car still having the dash and center console in it. That weight would have probably offset the weight of the windows, No?
I actually thought a lot about this whole window thing and after calculating the weight of all the parts, I decided to leave the windows, window switches, widow regulators and the doors intact, except for the interior door panels. For driving to the track I decided that a few pounds was worth my comfort (not too mention being able to lock the doors when leaving it in a public place) to and from the track. Once at the track they were full down.
I figured when the track car went full race I would trailer it to and from the track and gut the doors and windows then. Now it's on someone else's to do list.
I'm surprised to see Mark's car still having the dash and center console in it. That weight would have probably offset the weight of the windows, No?