Does anyone think the aftermarket timing belt tension tool is a little pricey?
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Does anyone think the aftermarket timing belt tension tool is a little pricey?
I got mine today and I think $25 would be plenty.
Is there any way to calibrate it? It seems the spring would lose tension after a few years.
Is there any way to calibrate it? It seems the spring would lose tension after a few years.
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I dunno. It's about 10% the cost of a factory one. Besides, the factory gauge is a pain to work with.
I admit, it's pretty simple, but he isn't going to sell THAT many of 'em. I guess I can't begrudge the guy a few extra bucks for making such a handy thing. YMMV
Don't worry about the spring. It'll have virtually the same spring tenson forever. If you want to calibrate it, you can just hang a small weight from it and measure it's length when new. Then anytime you have any doubts about it's calibration, do it again and check yer notes.
I admit, it's pretty simple, but he isn't going to sell THAT many of 'em. I guess I can't begrudge the guy a few extra bucks for making such a handy thing. YMMV
Don't worry about the spring. It'll have virtually the same spring tenson forever. If you want to calibrate it, you can just hang a small weight from it and measure it's length when new. Then anytime you have any doubts about it's calibration, do it again and check yer notes.
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You can download the virtual gauge for free of our site, the service page. We use a note or pitch for setting belts. It's bang on too. Probably more accurate than the Porsche gauge if you can sense tones reasonably well.
If it has more than one part, no it's not too much money. Not for the production volume of the 928 market. One can't compare to products made for runs in the 1000's of units.
If it has more than one part, no it's not too much money. Not for the production volume of the 928 market. One can't compare to products made for runs in the 1000's of units.
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No, it is not pricey considering they are made by someone who loves and drives 928's. All of us who own 928s are fortunate that Jay cares enough to make them. Considering the work it takes to build, calibrate, and test each unit, and the fact that it's an exteremely specialized item that works so well, I would buy it again at twice the price. I use mine at least 5 times a year... just to be sure. Real cheap insurance if you ask me.
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The value of the tool is not in the materials which couldn't be more than two dollars. It's a close reproduction of an early Porsche tool - there are photos in the workshop manuals. So I think the design is fine and considering the limited market, a good value. Mine paid for itself the first time I used it. Thanks, Jay!
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Supply and demand fellas
Supply and demand
If Jay hadn't built the tool, most of us would still be paying out $$$ to have someone with the Porsche tool do it....
Be grateful it even exists
Supply and demand
If Jay hadn't built the tool, most of us would still be paying out $$$ to have someone with the Porsche tool do it....
Be grateful it even exists
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If the tool performs as advertised...just once,
then you got a bargain.
If it is still functioning at the 1300/1500mile mark, just in time for a retension check... another bargain.
If you lend it out at $10.00 a pop - plus shipping - heck, you can make money.
I'll be ordering mine soon.
Good all around deal. Kudo's to the guy who thought it up. This is money well spent.
Otherwise there would be nothing to choose from...just the $400.00, 000-721-920-10 tool. Christ can you imagine a couple of thousand Factory tension tools lying in tool drawers all over the world and only being used once every 5-8 years? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> A total waste.
A used sunroof tool for opening a dead sunroof is $40.00.
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then you got a bargain.
If it is still functioning at the 1300/1500mile mark, just in time for a retension check... another bargain.
If you lend it out at $10.00 a pop - plus shipping - heck, you can make money.
I'll be ordering mine soon.
Good all around deal. Kudo's to the guy who thought it up. This is money well spent.
Otherwise there would be nothing to choose from...just the $400.00, 000-721-920-10 tool. Christ can you imagine a couple of thousand Factory tension tools lying in tool drawers all over the world and only being used once every 5-8 years? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> A total waste.
A used sunroof tool for opening a dead sunroof is $40.00.
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That, plus what choice do we have?
I'm sure most of us will be willing to buy that little tool, up to $250. Why, cause we got no other option.
He makes it, he can charge what ever he likes, and we've got no choice but to pay it, unless we start trying to make it ourselves, and under cut him.
Opps, did I say that. ;-)
I'm sure most of us will be willing to buy that little tool, up to $250. Why, cause we got no other option.
He makes it, he can charge what ever he likes, and we've got no choice but to pay it, unless we start trying to make it ourselves, and under cut him.
Opps, did I say that. ;-)
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Speakin' of that, where is that Jay Kempf guy? I'm pretty sure he has not yet dropped in here.
If any of you lads are pals with him, invite him over to this forum, could ya - we would certainly benefit from his CIS expertise.
Or, if you know his email address, pass it along and I'll invite him myself.
If any of you lads are pals with him, invite him over to this forum, could ya - we would certainly benefit from his CIS expertise.
Or, if you know his email address, pass it along and I'll invite him myself.
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Jim,
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You’re sounding cheap today! <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" />
It’s worth every penny just as much as the RENNLIST PAID MEMBERSHIP!
Try doing without either <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> .
Hope that helps!
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It just goes to show "You can't please everybody, so don't even try to.
I've use both the factory tool and the Kempf tool. The factory tool can be used on all the drive belts (and on other Porsche models), while the Kempf tool is only applicable to the 928 cam-belt. Even so, it works very well and I think it's a bargain. In fact, relative to the cost of so many 928 parts and tools, it's a steal! YMMV.
I've use both the factory tool and the Kempf tool. The factory tool can be used on all the drive belts (and on other Porsche models), while the Kempf tool is only applicable to the 928 cam-belt. Even so, it works very well and I think it's a bargain. In fact, relative to the cost of so many 928 parts and tools, it's a steal! YMMV.
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Jim,
You must be a right cheapskate...........you will save the price of the tool just by doing the job yourself, rather than paying a dealer to do it.
Just think of the time and effort it took Jay to draw the parts up, order, assemble, calibrate. Plus getting a factory tool to cross check with.
His production quantities are small. Do you really expect him to give his time and effort for next to nothing ?
You must be a right cheapskate...........you will save the price of the tool just by doing the job yourself, rather than paying a dealer to do it.
Just think of the time and effort it took Jay to draw the parts up, order, assemble, calibrate. Plus getting a factory tool to cross check with.
His production quantities are small. Do you really expect him to give his time and effort for next to nothing ?