928 with Cayenne engine??
#46
I did do the measure, the Cayenne engine is indeed tall, you would definately have to modifiy the sump, we have a very good sump when it comes to sitting the engine low in the chassis, not much good in other departments though. The turbos will need ditate the need for an entire new exhaust system including manifolds.
The intake was touch and go, I did the measure on a car in the dealers workshop, if the engine was out I could be more certain, I would bet it would fit, it's going to be tight! I was offered a turbo engine for about $15K, the turbo is the way to go as the is stronger too. I was looking at it for a weight saving and positioning advantage, set the engine further back as it is more compact, I think the turbo engine weighed 232 kgs? Can't be sure it is a while ago now, just before I decided to go back to 2 valve technology, now that is bit a laugh isn't it.
Greg
The intake was touch and go, I did the measure on a car in the dealers workshop, if the engine was out I could be more certain, I would bet it would fit, it's going to be tight! I was offered a turbo engine for about $15K, the turbo is the way to go as the is stronger too. I was looking at it for a weight saving and positioning advantage, set the engine further back as it is more compact, I think the turbo engine weighed 232 kgs? Can't be sure it is a while ago now, just before I decided to go back to 2 valve technology, now that is bit a laugh isn't it.
Greg
#50
Originally Posted by Enzo
Swabar,
Your estimation on what these engines are worth is WAY off. These are a mass produced auto's. There are probably more 4.5 liter Cayanne motors in junk yards than 928 produced.
There is a used 4.5 liter Cayenne long block in a junk yard 30 miles from my house with a 90 day warranty.
Guess how much.......
wait for it.......
wait for it......
keep waiting......
I called to verify the price, if I have a "friend" call it would be a bit cheaper......
still guessing????
$3,000
Yup, three thousand dollars, not even close to 20,000.
Your estimation on what these engines are worth is WAY off. These are a mass produced auto's. There are probably more 4.5 liter Cayanne motors in junk yards than 928 produced.
There is a used 4.5 liter Cayenne long block in a junk yard 30 miles from my house with a 90 day warranty.
Guess how much.......
wait for it.......
wait for it......
keep waiting......
I called to verify the price, if I have a "friend" call it would be a bit cheaper......
still guessing????
$3,000
Yup, three thousand dollars, not even close to 20,000.
Yes, but does it come with aero mirrors? And more importantly, are they painted?
#51
While a Cayenne or other Porsche engine transplant into the 928 would be attractive to most Porschephiles, experience has already proven that (if you're determined to build a 928 "streetrod") a hot Chevy engine could be made to fit in more easily....and the same HP could be attained...cheaper.
H2
H2
#53
Originally Posted by heinrich
I would LOVE to see a Cayenne motor in a 928. From an enthusiast's perspective, I think it would be:
a) ridiculously fast
b) incredibly cool
c) very difficult but not impossible
d) a bit expensive unless you had an engine and did the work yourself.
Is the engine management needed or can one simply use aftermarket, Megasquirt etc? Plus, if you've got the wreck to source the engine, presumably the harness and brains are easy to toss into the deal?
Our friend Lizard would be an exceptional man for this job. Mike Simmard; Hammer; Murf; DR; Utah dudes are all more than able.
a) ridiculously fast
b) incredibly cool
c) very difficult but not impossible
d) a bit expensive unless you had an engine and did the work yourself.
Is the engine management needed or can one simply use aftermarket, Megasquirt etc? Plus, if you've got the wreck to source the engine, presumably the harness and brains are easy to toss into the deal?
Our friend Lizard would be an exceptional man for this job. Mike Simmard; Hammer; Murf; DR; Utah dudes are all more than able.
Just what I need, more ideas!
Hammer
#54
Originally Posted by LndShrk
I've been thinking lately about what I want to do with my OB to make more power, and the question that came to mind was could my old bugger be fit with the 4.5L from the Cayenne? I know it would require a new harness and possible/probably a new powertrain, but could the engine fit. I'm curious because of the awesome out put of that 4.5.
#56
Originally Posted by Peter F
Does the Cayenne engine has drysump from factory?
/Peter
/Peter
The Gen-1 Cayenne V-8 has 340HP. The Gen-2 with direct injection is ~380HP.
You can easily mod a Turbo to 550+
Yes it does have a dry sump. It was designed this way so extreme off-roading (inclines) could be achieved.
Another thing to look at are the brakes. My 5000# truck stops way better than my old '81 928. I know it's not a fair comparison, but the front calipers are HUGE.
#58
I must say I never thought that the question I prompted would cause such a debate. I must say that at the current time I don't see myself being able to pull anything of this magnitude off anytime soon. That being said I merely prompted the question because well I'm 18 and I've got more ideas for the car then I have appendeges! What I think owning a 928 or any car like it is about is having it the way you want it (as long as its in good taste!). If you love your stock 79' or a blown S4 then so be it! What I would personally love to see is the envelope being pushed a little more. I think we're headed in the right direction with people like Mark Kilbort, Carl Faust, and Tim Murphy doing what they have I just hope it builds on itself so that more options become availible in the future.
Whoever said I should put a Chebby in my 928 needs to get their head checked. Thats like saying put a damn truck engine in a super car and then putting it back in a truck!!!......oh wait they already did that EXAMPLE: Dodge Viper. I hope you think about you said.
Whoever said I should put a Chebby in my 928 needs to get their head checked. Thats like saying put a damn truck engine in a super car and then putting it back in a truck!!!......oh wait they already did that EXAMPLE: Dodge Viper. I hope you think about you said.
#60
Pushrods or not, an LS series Chevy motor in a 928 is a major upgrade. More powerful and lighter.