whall

I have searched the archives and read as much as I can find about the procedure. I have also read the procedure post by Gary Knox and Earl Gillstrom. In the archives, it indicates that a spring compressor is needed but in the post by Gary Knox and Earl Gillstrom, ther is no mention of a Spring Compressor required. There write up is for 87-95 so there may be a difference. Can anyone please verify if a Spring compressor is needed for the job or not.
Thanks.
Warren

John Struthers

Not sure.
Will check he WSM's if and when my son Zack wakes up -nite shift-.

Bill Ball

A spring compressor is needed. I've found some types of aftermarket FRONT springs are so short, a compressor isn't needed to install them. Not true for the rear, and a compressor would be needed to remove the stock springs regardless.

whall

Bill,
Thanks. My manuals are still not found due to my recent move - causing me pain.
Much Appreciated.
Warren

Mrmerlin

when you remove the rear shocks also remove the lower rear pin (The long bolt the lower shock is mounted to), its easiest to pull it out the rear, after disconnecting the lower anti sway bar bolts , once the pin is out you can clean it, and roll it on a smooth surface to make shure it is still straight if its bent you will need a replacement a used one will work fine, you can either use grease or antiseiz compound when its time to reinstall the lower pin also note how the beveled washers fall out to hold them in place you can use very sticky grease(IE thickgrease)

jpitman2

Also note that the top mount is ASYMMETRIC - it will only fit in ONE position of the 3 you might think would work....BTDT. And be careful with the compressor - always try to work such that if one lets go, nobody and nothing valuable is in the line of fire!

jp 83 Euro S AT 50k

chaadster

Whall,

It's probably worthwhile considering taking the old coilover assembly (removed from the car) and the new shocks to a shop to have them do the spring swap. It'll save you a lot of monkeying around for what is relatively few dollars (e.g. $25 ea.). They have specialized pneumatic tools that make quick work of removing the spring and pressing the old adjuster collars onto the new shock bodies.

whall

Thanks for the advice. I have had the bottom bolts apart to replace rear wheel bearings so I expect that part of the job should go easy.
Chaadster, I will heed your advice - Thanks.
Any comments on how much I will notice a difference re the new shocks.
Warren

Mrmerlin

well it depends on how old/worn the original shocks were, if the back bounced like a kid on a trampoline then it will be like driving a new car

Garth S

The bottom mount is assymetric too ...

I recently installed Konis on a friends car - and will again issue the caution about DIY spring compressors: if using the type that is a pair of threaded rods with cast hooks .... do yourself a big favour and buy two sets!
I always use three compressors per spring, for a variety of safety and convenience issues.

The rear threaded adjusters have been fused to the body of practically every Boge I've touched. Rather than beat on it and destroy the threads, I hacksaw the shock off 1/4" proud of the adjuster, and saw cut the steel cylinder lengthwise to twist it free of the aluminium sleeve ...

chaadster

Elaborating on Garth's troubles with the threaded adjusters, I was able to utilize a hydraulic press on the shock and push it out of the threaded adjuster. As I said, this was at a professional shop, so it was pretty easy.

In response to Whall's question about ride difference, it will be obviously better, but, what I've discovered, is that it will make the fronts (which are probably of the same vintage, if not as worn) feel like crap in comparison to the new rears! So, prepare to be have ecstatic, half depressed!!

I can't wait to do my fronts.

jpitman2

My Bilstein threaded adjuster had to be cut off the rears when I did them.
Yes the bottom is asymmetric, but its a LOT more obvious than the top!
jp 83 Euro S AT M474

derporsche928

Warren,
If this helps, Auto Zone or Advance Auto Parts, will let you borrow a set of spring compressors with a deposit, refunded upon return.
Best,

whall

Thanks for all of the advice - borrowed compressors from Auto Value and completed the job last night. It seems a little stiffer in the rear but not a major difference. The shocks were oil soaked so I guess it was just a matter of time til they got noticeably bad.
BTW - the job took 4 hours 2.5 for the first side and 1.5 for the second including cleaning all parts.