Close to the edge: Drove a New Corvette
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I find it interesting how most Vette owners I know have great respect for the 928. Not all of them agree about the 911's though.
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...And quit bashing each other over who's is bigger and who's is better. Mine's better, just ask. In the meanwhile, leave the schoolyard stuff on OT or Pelican.
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sorry but i never bashed anyone. simply stated my opinion.
never said anything i have is better of bigger.
i said we shouldn't be comparing these two cars. WAY DIFFERENT.
ENZO.. SHUT UP... you're the butt tool that got us in trouble.
how's that for school yard
i NEVER said you couldn't have an opinion. i stated mine.
i've owned, you've driven. i paid for the right to have my vette opinion your a sideline cheerleader. go buy a vette, invest your time and money and passion keeping it detailed and road worthy. then come back and talk about things. you'll agree. THEY WEAR OUT TOO FAST.... i feel like i wasted my money TWICE. C4 and C5.....
the new vette for 2009.
620 HP, 200+ MPH, 100,000.00 price tag.
actually not a bad deal all things considered. and they look fast and mean.
again, owned a couple already and i wasn't impressed with the way they wear. very fun, fast but wear out too quickly.
this new one for 2008 seems to be an entirely different approach so.... we'll see.
i'll refrain from posturing on this new vette and hopefully one of my dear friends will take the plunge next year.
all in fun. and sorry for the toes i stepped on. mainly ENZO
how'd you like that butt tool comment? got that from my 17 year old nephew.
sorry but i never bashed anyone. simply stated my opinion.
never said anything i have is better of bigger.
i said we shouldn't be comparing these two cars. WAY DIFFERENT.
ENZO.. SHUT UP... you're the butt tool that got us in trouble.
how's that for school yard
i NEVER said you couldn't have an opinion. i stated mine.
i've owned, you've driven. i paid for the right to have my vette opinion your a sideline cheerleader. go buy a vette, invest your time and money and passion keeping it detailed and road worthy. then come back and talk about things. you'll agree. THEY WEAR OUT TOO FAST.... i feel like i wasted my money TWICE. C4 and C5.....
the new vette for 2009.
620 HP, 200+ MPH, 100,000.00 price tag.
actually not a bad deal all things considered. and they look fast and mean.
again, owned a couple already and i wasn't impressed with the way they wear. very fun, fast but wear out too quickly.
this new one for 2008 seems to be an entirely different approach so.... we'll see.
i'll refrain from posturing on this new vette and hopefully one of my dear friends will take the plunge next year.
all in fun. and sorry for the toes i stepped on. mainly ENZO
how'd you like that butt tool comment? got that from my 17 year old nephew.
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2009 620 hp ZR1 'Blue Devil' Corvette:
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If the Vette body is still fiberglass (I assume it is, but I haven't kept up with Vette development), this is one glaring weakness. It simply will not hold up over time and in an accident it contributes nothing to the integrity of the car. A Vette crashed in one of our open road race events and there wasn't a panel left on after it finished rolling. It disintegrated. My 66, as much as I loved it, had paint checking and small cracks all over the body.
I read where a lot of the 09 ZR1 front is carbonfiber, and that in order to prevent deterioration of some exposed fiber in the splitter they developed a special clearcoat that is $2000 a gallon. Be very careful pulling into parking spaces!
I read where a lot of the 09 ZR1 front is carbonfiber, and that in order to prevent deterioration of some exposed fiber in the splitter they developed a special clearcoat that is $2000 a gallon. Be very careful pulling into parking spaces!
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If the Vette body is still fiberglass (I assume it is, but I haven't kept up with Vette development), this is one glaring weakness. It simply will not hold up over time and in an accident it contributes nothing to the integrity of the car. A Vette crashed in one of our open road race events and there wasn't a panel left on after it finished rolling. It disintegrated. My 66, as much as I loved it, had paint checking and small cracks all over the body.
I read where a lot of the 09 ZR1 front is carbonfiber, and that in order to prevent deterioration of some exposed fiber in the splitter they developed a special clearcoat that is $2000 a gallon. Be very careful pulling into parking spaces!
I read where a lot of the 09 ZR1 front is carbonfiber, and that in order to prevent deterioration of some exposed fiber in the splitter they developed a special clearcoat that is $2000 a gallon. Be very careful pulling into parking spaces!
I am also assuming like the previous Zr1 this will be limited production and most likely very few of these cars will be actually driven.
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Actually it read the additive is $6000 a gallon and when mixed with clear it becomes $2000 a gallon. Do you think they will sell the clear already mixed or the part already painted? Sounds like a low curb can cost $10k if your not careful. I like the cheap replaceable GT3 front spoiler approach better myself.
I am also assuming like the previous Zr1 this will be limited production and most likely very few of these cars will be actually driven.
I am also assuming like the previous Zr1 this will be limited production and most likely very few of these cars will be actually driven.
The biggest is, spare parts, many like the windshield and the ECM are just not available any more.
And the Corvette may be called fiberglass, but since the introduction of the C4 it is SMC.
I am not really sure what the difference is, but I do know there is one.
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I know of a few guys that drive the crap out of the old ZR-1's, but there are some problems.
The biggest is, spare parts, many like the windshield and the ECM are just not available any more.
And the Corvette may be called fiberglass, but since the introduction of the C4 it is SMC.
I am not really sure what the difference is, but I do know there is one.
The biggest is, spare parts, many like the windshield and the ECM are just not available any more.
And the Corvette may be called fiberglass, but since the introduction of the C4 it is SMC.
I am not really sure what the difference is, but I do know there is one.
SMC is a polyester-based material, but it cannot be repaired with polyester resin. This is due to the mold release agent that is present throughout the entire SMC part. Unlike conventionally molded parts where release agents are applied to the mold surface, SMC is compounded with them in the resin mix for quicker processing. This means that as the damage is sanded to prepare a good bonding surface, fresh mold release agent is exposed. Polyester resin products are not strong enough to adhere to this surface. SMC SHOULD ONLY BE REPAIRED USING EPOXY-BASED RESINS, FILLERS AND ADHESIVES. When painting, use only catalyzed type paint systems.
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That will work.
Two things I dont do to cars, paint (body work) and upholstery. I have tried it and it was not pretty.
One thing that I do find interesting is that what you say is that you should not try to paint a C4 or later with lacquer.
Never knew that, not that I would use it, cool.
Two things I dont do to cars, paint (body work) and upholstery. I have tried it and it was not pretty.
One thing that I do find interesting is that what you say is that you should not try to paint a C4 or later with lacquer.
Never knew that, not that I would use it, cool.
How about this
SMC is a polyester-based material, but it cannot be repaired with polyester resin. This is due to the mold release agent that is present throughout the entire SMC part. Unlike conventionally molded parts where release agents are applied to the mold surface, SMC is compounded with them in the resin mix for quicker processing. This means that as the damage is sanded to prepare a good bonding surface, fresh mold release agent is exposed. Polyester resin products are not strong enough to adhere to this surface. SMC SHOULD ONLY BE REPAIRED USING EPOXY-BASED RESINS, FILLERS AND ADHESIVES. When painting, use only catalyzed type paint systems.
SMC is a polyester-based material, but it cannot be repaired with polyester resin. This is due to the mold release agent that is present throughout the entire SMC part. Unlike conventionally molded parts where release agents are applied to the mold surface, SMC is compounded with them in the resin mix for quicker processing. This means that as the damage is sanded to prepare a good bonding surface, fresh mold release agent is exposed. Polyester resin products are not strong enough to adhere to this surface. SMC SHOULD ONLY BE REPAIRED USING EPOXY-BASED RESINS, FILLERS AND ADHESIVES. When painting, use only catalyzed type paint systems.
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GM is much worse than Porsche is about this, and Ford is with out a doubt, one of the worse of the bunch for parts going NLA.
I have seen two or three year old fords that needed a P/S line and you cant get one.
I cant make any money repairing cars if I cant get the parts to do so.
#193
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Whats odd is the ZR1 will be about 200lbs heavier than the standard Z06......sure the extra 115hp 125 torque more than make up for it......but for a serious track beast....the standard Z06 is probably the better choice...that plus $30+K less too
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Just what the Corvette driver needs on the track, more power.
Right, Sway?
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Four wheels, front engine, V8.....disc brakes, two doors....vette is faster.....ok I see your point.
Wow - when did my sister join Rennlist?
Who's in trouble?
Bike racks or flag pole at recess? Keep it above the belt this time.
......and you keep saying it like I'm going to suddenly agree.
Add track side support and pit crew for 15 some odd years to my resume please. Not 15 straight years, some dry time, but you get the idea.
You have to pay to have an opinion now? When did Hillary win the election?
WOW - if you only knew.
No I will not.
The two you owned might have, I'm not going to argue that. The MAJORITY of the vette's I'm around are just fine.
Do a search on any car forum, you will find the same story with any car. Even here on Rennlist about the 928.
No toes here, just hate blaket statements made about any car. Some say 928's are unreliable. I disagree with those people too.
Had me thinking dad really bought the Corvette's
It shows.
I do not seen the exact weight yet, but more of the ZR1's body was lightened over the ZO6.
The brakes are also upgraded.
Wow - when did my sister join Rennlist?
Who's in trouble?
Bike racks or flag pole at recess? Keep it above the belt this time.
......and you keep saying it like I'm going to suddenly agree.
Add track side support and pit crew for 15 some odd years to my resume please. Not 15 straight years, some dry time, but you get the idea.
You have to pay to have an opinion now? When did Hillary win the election?
No I will not.
The two you owned might have, I'm not going to argue that. The MAJORITY of the vette's I'm around are just fine.
Do a search on any car forum, you will find the same story with any car. Even here on Rennlist about the 928.
No toes here, just hate blaket statements made about any car. Some say 928's are unreliable. I disagree with those people too.
Had me thinking dad really bought the Corvette's
It shows.
The brakes are also upgraded.