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Old 07-26-2007, 01:20 PM
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what about the full season i got out of my 5 liter part euro?
engine is still running today , from what ive heard.

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Single line from the accusump into the end cap of a canton spin-on oil filter.

I hear this will even keep an engine alive running Mobil 1!!



That, or the unknown factory modifications.
Old 07-26-2007, 01:40 PM
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Yes, I can vouch for that too; my engine is now running 10 - 15 degrees cooler at RA with the complete Ishihara-Johnson crank scraper kit.
Sway Bar: Are you running the teflon kit or the regular kit.....can I install this from under the car without pulling the engine.

If at all possible, go ahead and do the external oil cooler too at the same time; it is money in the bank.
I would prefer to tie the oil cooler into the existing line and not have to worry about whether the oil is filtered or not, plus the concerns with sending cold oil to the cooler without a thermostat and not have to worry about putting a check valve in the system to prevent reversion toward the cooler when the accusump activates. I know that the lines are an odd duck size. Is there a consensus on what size cooler would be appropriate? It there an independent source for the ends? I have thought about adding a cooler as a stand alone unit if it was properly sized or running a smaller pre-cooler before it goes to the water cooled portion of the radiator.

what about the full season i got out of my 5 liter part euro?
Mark: I am seriously becoming afraid to go to the parts store and pick up any regular brand of oil.....I am beginning to believe that you know who we all are and where we live and plan to stalk us all until we join the "brotherood of the red oil". LOL

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Originally Posted by Vlocity
Sway Bar: Are you running the teflon kit or the regular kit
The regular kit.

can I install this from under the car without pulling the engine.
I did not do the install as I my engine builder did-so while putting together my new wet-sleeve motor. He reported it took time to get the clearances right; it requires 0.040 at the counter-weights, and it is bolted to the girdle using the girdle bolts. So technically you can install without pulling the engine, but installing it with the engine out would be a lot easier.
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Why do I think of this ...." ..Vita-Mix Professional Series is not your average blender: It can turn raw vegetables into piping hot soup in a matter of minutes. The stainless steel blade generates speeds up to 240 mph, creating enough friction to bring soup up to serving temperature. Throw in fresh soup ingredients and you’ll get a steaming hot soup in minutes. ..." when I think of the oil in the crankcase or wonder why late S-4 have a power steering fluid cooler lines ?? What the crank speed is in MPH for the rod journal ? Just about anything you can do to reduce the oil storm inside the crankcase is a plus...obviously dry sump is best then you get into screens, scrapers ,baffles , deeper pans. The reason that you see higher horsepower with dry sump is there is less power being lost whipping up hot soup ...
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Hail to the red oil!

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Originally Posted by Vlocity
Mark: I am seriously becoming afraid to go to the parts store and pick up any regular brand of oil.....I am beginning to believe that you know who we all are and where we live and plan to stalk us all until we join the "brotherood of the red oil". LOL

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Originally Posted by SwayBar
The regular kit.


I did not do the install as I my engine builder did-so while putting together my new wet-sleeve motor. He reported it took time to get the clearances right; it requires 0.040 at the counter-weights, and it is bolted to the girdle using the girdle bolts. So technically you can install without pulling the engine, but installing it with the engine out would be a lot easier.
Did Todd use the one with the screen or the prior version with long holes where the weights go through?
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when I think of the oil in the crankcase or wonder why late S-4 have a power steering fluid cooler lines ?? What the crank speed is in MPH for the rod journal ? Just about anything you can do to reduce the oil storm inside the crankcase is a plus...

Jim....

I agree 100%. Even my old Corvette motors from the 70's had a "windage tray".

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Originally Posted by BrendanC
Did Todd use the one with the screen or the prior version with long holes where the weights go through?
The one with the screen.
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Do you think the teflon version is worth the extra cost
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Originally Posted by stuartph
Do you think the teflon version is worth the extra cost
At the time I bought it, no.

But looking back, I wish I had since the teflon scraper would be that much more efficient, especially important since it's in my racecar and it's brand-new wet-sleeve engine.

However, for a street-only car, there's no need to spend the extra money for the teflon version, but would be cool nonetheless.
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But looking back, I wish I had since the teflon scraper would be that much more efficient, especially important since it's in my racecar and it's brand-new wet-sleeve engine.
Swaybar:

I have glanced at the installation guide and the teflon is installed with 0 clearance and then "run in". That might be a lot easier to install laying on my back under the car then the .040 tolerance. I probably will go with the Teflon this winter. I'd need to download their installation guide to be sure I understand how that works.....

Regards,

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Originally Posted by Vlocity
I have glanced at the installation guide and the teflon is installed with 0 clearance and then "run in". That might be a lot easier to install laying on my back under the car then the .040 tolerance.
Good thinking!
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Originally Posted by Vlocity
Swaybar:

I have glanced at the installation guide and the teflon is installed with 0 clearance and then "run in". That might be a lot easier to install laying on my back under the car then the .040 tolerance. I probably will go with the Teflon this winter. I'd need to download their installation guide to be sure I understand how that works.....

Regards,

Ken
I am doing one right now, and I really cannot suggest to you that it is a under the car job. And I am the guy that has done rod bearings on the concrete in a parking garage. This job, the scraper installation, is not for doing under the car, it really is not.

I have been grinding away at the fitment issues for 3 days off an on now, trying to get it to fit.
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I am doing one right now, and I really cannot suggest to you that it is a under the car job.
So did you go with the regular unit ot the teflon?

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I finally was able to find time to cut the filter apart tonight and there was NO sign of any debris what so ever......it looks like I dodged a big bullet.

I have the new Accusump here and will be installing it over the next few days and then I will be off to Mid Ohio on Monday and Tuesday next week. I'll try to post a few pictures as I progress and I may have a couple of questions too.

It looks like the crank scraper will be a winter project.

Thanks to all.

Oh.....and Mark Kibort finally won me over....(see below) please take a look and let me know what you think.

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