Alan

Keith my point was not to free up just the pot wheel - but more so the actual space its in... behind the RHS steering column stalks... leave the AC bar unmolested!

Alan

928ntslow

The wheel location on the Pod is a PITA for me. I don't like having those controls there and I think Porsche screwed up when they implemented this. They were better off under the pod than behind the stalks. At least they were semi easy to get to without looking on the old cars, now its near impossible to get to them without accidentally tunring something eldse on and fumbling around to find them. I never touch the dimmer, but do use the delay. I certainly wouldn't wan the AC there.

I rather like the idea, whether you had suggested it or not, to put the controls on the Ack-Bar. If I can't find some nice looking switches, I won't go that route, but it is an avenue to pursue. I even thought about using anohter "AC" switch, but that would be a bitch to fit. However, I could just use the button cover and install another push button switch and see if I can make that work.

I'll figure something out at this point. Thanks for the help.

Champagne

Keith: Nice work. I know it's a lot of work to get to that point.
According to Pioneer, that extra 7 degrees is a big deal. That is why I set up mine the way I did. I hope for you it does work. Did you try to boot it up. Mine actually checks the angle before booting.

Aside from the order of the Pioneer and AC controls, I fail to see what is so different between your set up and mine.
The main difference is that I put my screen flush at the top and inset at the bottom to reach that 30 degrees.

Paul

928ntslow

I guess I will cross that bridge when i get to it. I spoke with some mobile tech head installers about this when I was first considering the unit and they said there should be no issues...especially as little as 7 more degrees. They felt is was a round number that Pioneer gave as the greatest angle guaranteeing the unit will funtion properly with no issues in positioning. We will see huh?

There is no great difference in what I had done in compared to yours Paul , pretty much a cosmetic thing. The biggerst is my location on the unit. In the end, yours looks totally custom and I am going for the stock look...if there could ever be one.

I am looking forward to your next set up. I have been thinking A LOT about an on board PC...very exciting stuff!

Champagne

Ultimately, I would agree with you and I did almost do exactly what you are doing. But when I could finally get a hold of tech at Pioneer, he was adamant about that limit. His concern was that exceeding that limit and adding rough roads could make the unit misread the data on the discs.

I was not convinced, but I didn't want to take a chance, so I revised my design.

Paul

AO

Let's not forget that Keth's model is a newer generation than Paul's Could have an impact on the whole angle thing.

ew928

Keith,
Might want to make a jig that mimics the 928 center console angle and test mount the Pioneer unit and power it up. I'm wondering how far a lean before the disc player's suspension fails to damp any vertical vibrations. Remember some older CD changers had that variable angle adjustable suspension adjustment.
CD or DVD skipping really sucks. Especially on them NYC rough roads.

Can the Ipod dock be modded and mounted in the ashtray area so the ipod can be inserted '8-track' style. Only problem would be the high visibility so the Ipod must be removed when the car is parked.

Ernest (NYC) Got the Ipod mini wireless remote control velcroed to the back of the steering wheel for Ipod control without taking hands off the wheel.

928ntslow

Not a bad suggestion at all! Thank you for that.

I have been kicking around ideas all day as far as the rear AC goes. One of the thoughts was , well, I may as well leave things as they are and use the original pots, but rather than mount them in plain site, I can conseal them under a gas shock hindged lid/cover where the ashtray was. Since this area will now follow the curve of the console, I should just stick to conforming a cover for the area underneath. I can use any number of modifications for the rear AC controls in there. AND, fit the IPOD in there. I had actually though about a "plug in" type docking station in there. I could build a soft slot so the IPOD could slip all the way in and be held snuggly. I could then just close the cover and you wouldn't even know it was there. All IPOD controlling is done from the touch screen of the Pioneer.

I will have to take a closer look at this as I think there is enough room to do all of this. It would certainly make for a much cleaner look!

Bill Ball

My Pioneer DVD-video/audio - TV - XM radio unit came with the same 30 degree warning and has never skipped once.

Mike Frye

Kieth,

That is an awesome setup. I'm sure with the trim in there it will look stock but better.

One more suggestion about your rear AC controls. One time when I was searching I found a thread where a guy replaced his wiper relay with one from VW. He said it was a one-for-one swap but the VW relay includes a function where it can 'learn' what wiper delay you want. This would free up the thumb wheel that is currently used for that to be used for something else, like your rear air.

I wish I could remember who it was or the name of the thread, but I'm sure you'll find it if you're interested.

Keep us posted and good luck!

Chuck Schreiber

Keith,

Not 100% sure but I think I remember seeing Rick Kong's 89 GT with the rear air controls moved to the handbrake surround. I think Devek may have done the mod. and believe they used the stock controls utilizing the existing hole provisions that were already there in the handbrake area.
Anyone remember seeing the controls on that car? Rick, you out there?

Alan

Chuck - I saw this exact mod on a RHD car on the landsharkoz site a while back....

Incidentally seems that site is now winding down Leonard seems to be selling his GTS... what's with the exodus recently...

PS Mike read the rest of the thread and yes it was me...

Alan

Mike Frye

Alan,

Sorry, didn't know 'digital wiper relay' meant the VW replacement that frees up the 'thumb wheel'. I'm sure that probably triggered it in my mind, but the connection wasn't all there, maybe my grounds are corroded .

Do you have the part number for the 'digital wiper relay'?

SharkSkin

Mike, David Hendrickson found the part IIRC, and related the info to Alan who has been spreading the word. I took the plunge and showed that it works on the early cars too. P/N is at that link.

928ntslow

I woke up this morning thinking about what to do with the rear AC controls. Now....I am thinking of not modifying these. I still have to measure, but I may be able to tuck them in below the Ack-bar as mentioned in my last post. If I don't end up with enough room to do the powerpoint and IPOD docking station, I mayyyyyy just move them to the P brake area as Chuck had mentioned. Too easy to do..ya know? Easy to get too as well. The wiper delay works fine for me as is...besides..it hardly ever rains up here in Portland.

I am really leaning towards a flip top cover at the console curve to hide the IPOD and powerpoint which will provide for a very clean/minimalistic look. Besides, it sure beats running an interface cable to the armrest for the IPOD and cutting a hole in there and taking up space and.... It would look very nice with just the Pioneer screen and the HVAC underneath.

Thinking of what Alan said as far as not cutting into the Ack-bar would probably keep for a cleaner look...hmmm...maybe I can fit the V1 remote display in there.though... At any rate, in further thinking, the Ack-bar either needs to have more options on it or go away completely...two buttons make you wonder why its there to begin with. Anyone hav any suggestions as to what can be done with the rest of the Ack-bar? I had seen DR marry the A/F Ratio meter into one...but no interest in having one in the GTS. Idea's???