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Old 02-21-2007, 05:50 PM
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You have not lived or "Died" till you drive in Florida a bunch of idots around here. Voted the worst drivers by the truckers assocition.
Old 02-21-2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa 928s
.... Voted the worst voters by the truckers assocition.
Old 02-21-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa 928s
.... Voted the worst voters by the truckers assocition.
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What's this about voting in Florida
Old 02-21-2007, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcquito
Whoa whoa... calm down. The only reason that I mentioned "barrel-rolling" was just to make the situation more extreme than it was when comparing a subaru to a porsche 928.

But really- a 2007 WRX STi is a much safer car than our 928s. I mean hell, it's MADE to be offroad and the engineers have to expect the car to plummet off a mountain in order to make it safe as can be.

sorrryyyy....

Whoa!! Sounds like JimH lurking as Marcquito.

And isn't that supposed to be ST1...

YMMV

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With virtually no damage to the roof, you have to wonder how the car was coming through the air. Was the tree growing at a weird angle? Had the car already completed 3/4 of a barrel roll? Was the car beginning an inside barrel roll? Junior accident investigators around the world want to know.
Old 02-21-2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Charley B
With virtually no damage to the roof, you have to wonder how the car was coming through the air. Was the tree growing at a weird angle? Had the car already completed 3/4 of a barrel roll? Was the car beginning an inside barrel roll? Junior accident investigators around the world want to know.

Somone mentioned earlier that it went down a 15 ft embankment/hill/cliff and that might explain how it wasn't a direct side impact but a little bit from the bottom which might also explain his escape with only a fractured pelvis.
Old 02-21-2007, 06:40 PM
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I'm glad he is not dead or very badly injured after that smash. That tree had his name written all over it, he is lucky.
I've not got much to say in the way of justifying travelling at speed in the wrong conditions, it's just an accident waiting to happen. Looking at this car has told me to think about the surroundings a little more, slow down for tree lined roads.
I travel through some great 928 roads on my way home from work (av 90 MPH), it's dry with no other cars around, but through scrub. No matter how good a driver you are, one day you will get cought out, at least when on public roads. SPOOKY S^&*
This is how own Legendary Racing Driver Peter Brock lost his life in a modernised '69 Daytona coupe in a rally through forests in Perth. Peter was nicknamed 'Peter Perfect' because of his unbelievable driving skill. He was incredible to watch. RIP Peter.
Thats another 928 thats bitten the dust it looks like.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:21 PM
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I blame Miami (my birthplace) for that bad driving rating in Florida.

I have to agree with cooleyjb on the impact being from the car dropping on the tree going down the embankment. He's fortunate for that too since the frame took quite a bit of the impact and not just the door.
Old 02-21-2007, 08:27 PM
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I have to agree with cooleyjb on the impact being from the car dropping on the tree going down the embankment.
You might be right, but I just can't visualize that kind of damage from the car dropping flat through the air onto a tree below. To have that much penatration, at least 12 to 18 inches, and still not affect the roofline, indicates it either hit with a tremendous amount of lateral force or the orientation of the car was not flat upon impact. The only other explanation I can think of is the tree was sheared off at the window area of the door but I think that is unlikely. In any scenario I can think of, where there would be that much damage to the side and none to the roof, the car has to be slanted top away from the tree or the tree has to be slanted top away from the car.
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Oh no I didnt mean fell flat. I was meaning it like you said with a slant it dropped on the tree.
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Wishing Joe a speedy recovery.
It's good the 928 has such a wide girth. You notice how much room there is between driver and the door, especially when I had so much room I could install the door speakers with the door closed.

Hope there's no other injuries other than the hip. Looks like an angled lower hit so he didn't hit his head against the door or window.

Ernest (NYC) With the idiots pretending to be driving around me, sometimes wish I could drive with a helmet on. Wonder how much hassle the Polizei will give me for that.
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Next obvious question is who needs new autobox.
Here Roger here Roger, fresh auto tranny
Old 02-22-2007, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by heinrich
Let's invade France. We could bring safety to their roads.
No, thanks!



Regarding the trees, it seems that they also have an hypnotic effect making you sleep at a certain speed, near the speed limit on those roads (90 km/h).

Samuel
Old 02-22-2007, 05:41 AM
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The UK is listed as zones 8/9... Snow should be a rarity there much the way it is in Northern California.
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Originally Posted by 928cs
No, thanks!



Regarding the trees, it seems that they also have an hypnotic effect making you sleep at a certain speed, near the speed limit on those roads (90 km/h).

Samuel
I remember reading that the roadside trees chopping the light can mess with your head. The study was done a long time ago and involved a bycyclist. When the light through the trees flickered at the same rate as his brain alpha waves, he fell off his bike. IIRC, the study was done in France too so could have been any number of things, other than flickering light, to cause him to get sideways with his bike.

That's why in your 928, you should always go faster than your alpha waves. Could that be an excuse for the judge?


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