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Old 04-09-2006 | 01:32 PM
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I as pulling out of my driveway and put it into gear, gave it a little gas and it just died. Cranks over fine I had some one crank it and I looked and seen there is no spark from coils. I can here 2 relays clicking in fuse box when I turn key. The fuel pump is making no noise when cranking or when I turn key to ON position.
I checked fuses also and wiggled relays.
New fuel pump 500 miles ago.
New TB/WP 50 miles.
Maybe the aftermarket chips I put in 1mile ago?

86.5 man thanks for any advice.

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Old 04-09-2006 | 02:20 PM
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Anyone please?
Old 04-09-2006 | 02:30 PM
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Uhoh. I was going to say swap the fuel pump relay for the horn relay, but you incriminated yourself with the chip thing. Still, you should probably swap or jump 30-87 on that relay, then the EZK relay, then the LH relay. If that fails, put the original chip back in.
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What Bill said...

Also - I would double check for any corrosion or possible bent pin on the LH & EZK connectors.

Fuel pump not running + No spark doesn't sound like a FP relay.

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Could it be something with factory alarm?
What about crank sensor?
Old 04-09-2006 | 02:39 PM
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If putting the old chips back in doesn't work, check the crank position sensor.
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how do i check the sensor?
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86.5 doesn't have a crank sensor, don't bother. Most likely culprits are LH, EZF, or fuel pump relays. Failing that, go back and put the priginal PROM set back in.
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Thanks Ill go spend some time with it today.
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I don't know if you can get the chip locations reversed, but if it's possible to do so, that may be what happened. Hopefully this would only damage the chips, or nothing.
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Oh, I didn't see no spark as well as no fuel. That points more to the EZK relay.
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86.5 doesn't have a Hall sensor, but certainly has/needs a crank trigger.

Bob Ball got this right.....a good plan of action when working on your/anybody's car is to immediately go back to the last thing you touched before the car quit.
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Sorry Bill....meant "Bill", typed "Bob".
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Hi Guys,
I hate to bring up bad omens but this is exactly how my TB failed on my first 79. I checked everything and finally realized that the cam's were not moving. Good luck, I will pray this is not the problem but you must look.

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Well I checked all relays..good no corrosion all worked. Checked all connections to sensors all OK.
Swapped back to old chips...nothing. So I had a friend push me back into the garage and what... it started right up! Now this is weird. The only thing I did when i put it in the garage is put a battery charger on it but it wasnt really that low, Ive started it several times before being even lower. When I pulled it outside the battery was full so thats why I think it might be a coinsidence. No it starts everytime fine. Now Im worried about taking it anywhere.


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