BC

Yes, white can mean good things. It also means we won't see the full impact of the fenders Since a darker or more metalic color sould show the curves more.

Louie928

Very true. These will soon be on cars of other colors as well so a better evaluation can be made from those. They'll even have an engine and can move under their own power!

BC

I say that quite often.

Soon. Soon.

Susan K Thomas

On earlier comment that Louid took to heart is in the design of the flare and vehicle compression. Some fender flares, our metal flares exception, do not allow full compression on lowered 928 without tire damage or needing to use narrower tires. Louies work just fine!

A great product at any price.

Yes, I have a set on order/made.

Marc at Susans computer

IcemanG17

Louie
Those look great! Now you just need to drop the stroker in and melt some wide tires down...Bill Ball style!

goldknight

Louie, Dont get Adam started on how the black cars are faster, His reasons get to be out of this world,
And fear for your life if Tom M gets involed.

cant wait to help Adam get those on, Then when we do my car all the bugs will be worked out hahaha..

Just need to pry the 88 out of the wifes hands. She started driving it while i was out hunting and she dont want to give it back now. Sigh!!!!!

sharkmeister85

These flares look great! I see them being compared to S4/GT fenders. Does that mean they will not fit the earlier models?
Glenn

Louie928

That's exactly why I brought up the white = performance improvement.

Louie928

They fit, but takes a little more work. The bottom of rear bumper cover wraps forward to the wheel cutout on the S4/GT. The earlier cars have metal fender all the way down. You'd have to retain the lower metal part of the rear fender so it would mimic the S4 bumper cover. Fasten an angle piece to the top of that section to mate with the angle piece on the fender flare bottom. From there, it would be the same.

sharkmeister85

Thanks! Did you mention the wheel/tire size combo you have on the rear of the white car in the pictures? What size would be biggest combo possible do you think?
Glenn

Louie928

I woke in the middle of the night in a cold sweat worrying about what if my CAD drawing of the rear suspension arm lengths, pivot points, hub dimension, wheel configuration, and suspension movement was wrong. It had been a while since I figured that out but I was sure I figured that 5" of travel would have the outside edge of the tire move in an arc that gave about 3/4" inward travel too. The fender was designed with that in mind. But what if I was wrong and on extreme rear wheel travel, the tire hit the fender? I called Marc the next day in a near hyperventilating panic and asked him if he had any real world known suspension movement data. He told me the only way I'd really know was to take the rear springs off the shocks and let the car go all the way down, then jump on the rear to further compress the shock bumper. I did that and was amazed to find that the outside of the tire did follow the inside of the fender within about 1/8" all the way down, and there was still more than an inch of space above the tire. That rear end goes down a long way. Whew! Dodged that bullet.

Louie928

The wheel/tires are Hoosier 335/35/17". They are normal 25.5" in overall diameter. The wheels are, I believe, 12" wide. There is enough extra vertical clearance to go with an inch or more larger diameter if you want to do that. I bought these from Don Hanson and I think he bought them from Devek. I don't know the wheel offset. Adam and I figured it out yesterday, but I forgot what we determined. I have 1.25" spacers too. I think you could go a bit wider, but not much. My tires are within about 1/4" of the inside of the fender and that may be too close when driving and suspension bushings flex. We'll see what happens then. There is nearly an inch of space between the inside of the tire and the inner fender well, but most of that is used when the suspension travel moves the wheel inward. The wheel well inside is approx 2.25" wider than an S4 and about 1.5" wider than a GTS. I measure an S4 wheel well width at 13.25", GTS 14", and these are 15.5".

atb

They have a more aggressive look than the GTS arches for sure, and I really like the line of the wheel opening. A lot of aftermarket flare kits get the opening wrong, they are either too squared off like the 944GTR, or radiused round. Neither of which fit the lines of the 928.


Marc wrote:

Here's the proof. Louie's monster wheels at the equivalent of full compression:



Marc's set was made without the addtional reinforcement of the set Louie put on his own car, so they are lighter. After seeing the strength/rigidity of Louie's mounted set, it's hard to believe that Marc's lighter set is going to give up much in the way of strength. Once mounted, these were very strong. No flex or bending at all.

Louie wrote:

The actual rim measured at 13" wide, but maybe its 12" bead to bead, I don't really know where they measure width. The offset came out to 44.55mm with an 8.25" back spacing. The interesting thing about the rim is that its a deep dish like what you'd see on a 911. Not the mondo offset wheel we've become accustomed to seeing on a 928. This alone changes the look of the car to being more aggressive in my opinion.


Here's a shot of what the inside of the fender well looks like with the flare on. Plenty of room:



The gas cap filler backing shown in the pic is the prototype, so there is more resin than would be used with Louie's revised backing plate:




And hey, on the whole white = fast deal, all I can say is dream on. That whole myth is right up there with the 5 speeds are faster than A/T's deal; that flying red nosed reindeer, and the tooth fairy.

Nicole

Haha - Louie, Adam Chris and I will some day form the official anti-sidemoldings club...

2 Questions:

1. What is the reservoir we're seeing in the picture?
2. How is the inside of the fender lined - I would imagine you wan to avoid dirt and debris being thrown up at the bonding surface - no?

drnick

wicked!!