Info on a 928er hit by Katrina
09-05-2005, 01:24 PM
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Info on a 928er hit by Katrina
Hello to all. I mentioned last week in a post about the gas situation how I had spoken to David Wilson a week ago Sunday evening, the night before Katrina hit in the Gulf. David & his wife Kathy live in Ocean Springs, Miss., right across the bay from Biloxi. As I mentioned last week, they decided to ride out the storm since the house they were staying in was about 20 feet above sea level, & they were not directly on the ocean, although their town is.
I tried to call him a couple of times during the week to no avail since phones of all kinds have been out of course. David called me this past Sat. night to let me know that he & Kathy did survive the storm, but not without much loss. The home they stayed in is a two story. The water filled the first floor & part of the second. They had to go to the attic. They have a second home since they are recently married. That home is further inland but still flooded with about a foot of water & the first floor is all hardwood flooring so that is ruined.
His shark was in the garage, I thought at the house he stayed in but I am not completely sure. He said it did take on some water & the brain got wet, but it wasn't completely flooded. His insurance agent did tell him they would probably total it since the brain got wet. He wondered if it would be worth trying to save it instead. His car was the sister twin of mine, a 1985 928S, 32v, White Gold like mine. Hate to see it be scrapped. Those at SITM will remember his from that Sunday when Rixter was helping him replace his ignition switch with a spare one I gave him. I told him I thought a brain was around $800-$1,200 but wasnt sure, but that everyone here would be able to give him sound advice when he got to that point. He obviously has many more problems right now than his 928. He ran his Pest Control business out of the 1st floor of the house that was flooded out, both his computers are gone with his records, etc. So he pretty much has lost everything.
He told me it truly is as though an atomic bomb went off with the amount of devistation around him, especially as you go westward from him. He said it was very errie during the storm to be sitting in the 2nd floor of his house & watching his neighbor's homes literally float by & he saw several do so. But at least they survived it. They are now staying at his daughter's home in downtown Biloxi which got power back over the weekend & has ac too.
He did ask me to mention here too that he was previously attempting to purchase a belly pan from someone here on Rennlist who was parting out their car, not sure just who from though. He only mentioned their screen name once & I didnt reconize it, or remember it now. He said they'd know who they were though. Anyways, of course, he is not in any immediate need for a belly pan for his shark.
I asked him did he need anything, he couldnt think of anything, for now they are just day to day. Please everyone, make sure to keep him & his family in your prayers when you do so for those who have had their lives completely devistated by the hurricane. I know there were several other 928ers that were in the areas that were hit. Has anyone heard how they made out? Perhaps as we all celebrate this Labor Day with our families, we can be especially thankful for who & what we have in our lives & also especially prayerful for those who are now truly going thru a living hell here on earth like we cannot imagine.
I tried to call him a couple of times during the week to no avail since phones of all kinds have been out of course. David called me this past Sat. night to let me know that he & Kathy did survive the storm, but not without much loss. The home they stayed in is a two story. The water filled the first floor & part of the second. They had to go to the attic. They have a second home since they are recently married. That home is further inland but still flooded with about a foot of water & the first floor is all hardwood flooring so that is ruined.
His shark was in the garage, I thought at the house he stayed in but I am not completely sure. He said it did take on some water & the brain got wet, but it wasn't completely flooded. His insurance agent did tell him they would probably total it since the brain got wet. He wondered if it would be worth trying to save it instead. His car was the sister twin of mine, a 1985 928S, 32v, White Gold like mine. Hate to see it be scrapped. Those at SITM will remember his from that Sunday when Rixter was helping him replace his ignition switch with a spare one I gave him. I told him I thought a brain was around $800-$1,200 but wasnt sure, but that everyone here would be able to give him sound advice when he got to that point. He obviously has many more problems right now than his 928. He ran his Pest Control business out of the 1st floor of the house that was flooded out, both his computers are gone with his records, etc. So he pretty much has lost everything.
He told me it truly is as though an atomic bomb went off with the amount of devistation around him, especially as you go westward from him. He said it was very errie during the storm to be sitting in the 2nd floor of his house & watching his neighbor's homes literally float by & he saw several do so. But at least they survived it. They are now staying at his daughter's home in downtown Biloxi which got power back over the weekend & has ac too.
He did ask me to mention here too that he was previously attempting to purchase a belly pan from someone here on Rennlist who was parting out their car, not sure just who from though. He only mentioned their screen name once & I didnt reconize it, or remember it now. He said they'd know who they were though. Anyways, of course, he is not in any immediate need for a belly pan for his shark.
I asked him did he need anything, he couldnt think of anything, for now they are just day to day. Please everyone, make sure to keep him & his family in your prayers when you do so for those who have had their lives completely devistated by the hurricane. I know there were several other 928ers that were in the areas that were hit. Has anyone heard how they made out? Perhaps as we all celebrate this Labor Day with our families, we can be especially thankful for who & what we have in our lives & also especially prayerful for those who are now truly going thru a living hell here on earth like we cannot imagine.
09-05-2005, 10:43 PM
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Praise the Lord that they are OK!
On the brain ... if the brain was submerged in salt water it is a loss. If the water is somewhere near non-saline then there may be a save possible. The entire brain should be pulled and submerged into a container of tricloroethlene or one of the inert "circuit board cleaners". The fluid displaces the water and prevents air from getting to any parts which may corrode with a water/air mixture.
I have done this act several times with military electronic equipment which was submerged in water. On one occasion my team resurected a piece of military satellite phone equipment (AN/PSC2a) with its' crypto brick (AN/TSEC/KG88x) that had been dunked into salt water, but it was only submerged for a few minutes and immediately dumped into a bucket of fresh water which was replaced several times until we got it to the det hq and the tricloro stuff.
This is a last hope kind of action, but in many cases works. Integrated circuits themselves do not get "drowned" since they are sealed. It is the hair like electrical connecting wires which get electrically bridged over by water molecules and short things out.
After the brain comes out of the ethelene solution you use a low pressure air hose to fully dry everything -- just the drying takes a couple of hours and is not to be done in a hurry.
I really hope this works ... as I said it has worked for me on a number of occasions.
Key factors:
1. Relatively non-saline water immersion; saline water for more than a few hours and it is doomed;
2. Move the brain directly from the water environment to a container of fresh water immediately and keep it totally immersed.
3. Move the brain directly from the water immersion carrying container to the work bench.
4. Use low pressure air to quickly blow off excess water and/or debris
5. Immerse the brain in the inert fluid and jiggle to make sure all air bubbles disperse
6. Count to 100 slowly
7. Remove brain from inert liquid bath and immediately use low pressure air to blow dry the piece
8. Carefully inspect -- preferably using a hand magnifying glass -- to make sure all traces of liquid are gone. The water will bead and the inert liquid will have an oily sheen so you can tell the difference.
9. Repeat the immersion in the inert liquid bath as many times as necessary to remove all traces of water beading -- blow drying between baths. Some water may seep from underneath tightly packed components on the circuit board.
10 Finish by blow drying with warm air from the exhaust of a vacuum cleaner filterd through a clean cloth (place the cloth over the hose end of the vacuum cleaner and tape in place then attach the hose to the blowing output of the vacuum cleaner) Lacking a vacuum cleaner with a ******* attachment, use the air hose nozzle.
HTH!
Cheers,
On the brain ... if the brain was submerged in salt water it is a loss. If the water is somewhere near non-saline then there may be a save possible. The entire brain should be pulled and submerged into a container of tricloroethlene or one of the inert "circuit board cleaners". The fluid displaces the water and prevents air from getting to any parts which may corrode with a water/air mixture.
I have done this act several times with military electronic equipment which was submerged in water. On one occasion my team resurected a piece of military satellite phone equipment (AN/PSC2a) with its' crypto brick (AN/TSEC/KG88x) that had been dunked into salt water, but it was only submerged for a few minutes and immediately dumped into a bucket of fresh water which was replaced several times until we got it to the det hq and the tricloro stuff.
This is a last hope kind of action, but in many cases works. Integrated circuits themselves do not get "drowned" since they are sealed. It is the hair like electrical connecting wires which get electrically bridged over by water molecules and short things out.
After the brain comes out of the ethelene solution you use a low pressure air hose to fully dry everything -- just the drying takes a couple of hours and is not to be done in a hurry.
I really hope this works ... as I said it has worked for me on a number of occasions.
Key factors:
1. Relatively non-saline water immersion; saline water for more than a few hours and it is doomed;
2. Move the brain directly from the water environment to a container of fresh water immediately and keep it totally immersed.
3. Move the brain directly from the water immersion carrying container to the work bench.
4. Use low pressure air to quickly blow off excess water and/or debris
5. Immerse the brain in the inert fluid and jiggle to make sure all air bubbles disperse
6. Count to 100 slowly
7. Remove brain from inert liquid bath and immediately use low pressure air to blow dry the piece
8. Carefully inspect -- preferably using a hand magnifying glass -- to make sure all traces of liquid are gone. The water will bead and the inert liquid will have an oily sheen so you can tell the difference.
9. Repeat the immersion in the inert liquid bath as many times as necessary to remove all traces of water beading -- blow drying between baths. Some water may seep from underneath tightly packed components on the circuit board.
10 Finish by blow drying with warm air from the exhaust of a vacuum cleaner filterd through a clean cloth (place the cloth over the hose end of the vacuum cleaner and tape in place then attach the hose to the blowing output of the vacuum cleaner) Lacking a vacuum cleaner with a ******* attachment, use the air hose nozzle.
HTH!
Cheers,
09-06-2005, 09:33 AM
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Thank God they're OK. Stuff can be replaced. Dead is dead.
I'd try to salvage the brain, AND drain all fluids form the engine, tranny, etc. right away. Or, just accept the check and go buy a different car...
What a shame...
I'd try to salvage the brain, AND drain all fluids form the engine, tranny, etc. right away. Or, just accept the check and go buy a different car...
What a shame...
09-06-2005, 09:47 AM
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I have a brain for him from an '85.. It will be a while before I can get to it, however I will gladly give to it to him.
Thank God he is OK!
Thank God he is OK!
09-06-2005, 11:47 AM
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David, Kathy
we are so happy to know that you are ok... the shark can be repaired/replaced
our prayers are with you, if ya'll need anything just holler
Abby,
I take it your girl rode thru the storm in the parking garage without major damage
probably a good thing it sits low, useless to thieves in the deep water... any idea when you'll be able to get her out?
we are so happy to know that you are ok... the shark can be repaired/replaced
our prayers are with you, if ya'll need anything just holler
Abby,
I take it your girl rode thru the storm in the parking garage without major damage
probably a good thing it sits low, useless to thieves in the deep water... any idea when you'll be able to get her out?
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09-06-2005, 11:34 PM
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I'm confident Mr. Mann's fix would work because I once solved a fuse block full of water by sucking it "dry" of rainwater with a syringe and then exposing it to the May Texas sun for six hours. That was at about 15K miles and I drove the car to 120K.
That design was brilliant, a fuse box with a warpable, poppable cover located at the left rear of the engine against the firewall, underneath the windshield. A recipe for disaster. Thanks, Ford.
P.S. I've fixed keyboards in a similar fashion, a gentle but complete rinse and dry.
That design was brilliant, a fuse box with a warpable, poppable cover located at the left rear of the engine against the firewall, underneath the windshield. A recipe for disaster. Thanks, Ford.
P.S. I've fixed keyboards in a similar fashion, a gentle but complete rinse and dry.