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hi i’m 17 and just got this 84s from a member of the forum for 500$ it runs and drives but he wreaked and and bent the frame. i’ve been taking apart the front to fix and and a buddy is going to fix the frame but i’ve got a couple of questions
First would be how do you get off the crash bar
second would be how would one get off the fenders without damaging them (i’ve already gotten the old ones off but they were bent pretty badly in the process)
and third would be if any of y’all have cheap parts in the texas hill country area. the local pic and pull has one there but a lot of the things i need have already been taken
thanks
i assume this is not fixable within the "value" of the car at the end..... good news is you will sure make a profit above your 500$ invest selling parts .
You can try pulling it and see what happens. If it only you and your buddy and he is not charging you then no reason not to try. Generally, it is considered hard. There are some diagrams somewhere that show all the correct dimensions so you can tell if you have it straight or not.
There is in fact a frame in the 928; The car is referred to as a "unibody." That means that the frame and the body are unifiied or united into one unit. In that process some of the body becomes frame and some of the frame becomes body, but with some careful study one could remove a lot of sheet metal and be left with what looks very much like a ladder style car frame. If you focus on the the frame parts of the car you can pull them back to true and then work the body part of it all back into shape. Don't let these guys talk you out of trying it.
Last edited by Jerry Feather; 11-10-2021 at 07:52 PM.
That looks fairly seriously bent. Even if your friend is a body shop professional with pro grade equipment it will be nearly impossible to make it 100% which will causing driving issues later. I agree to part it out, make a profit and find a better car later.
Another option is find a donor body that is straight......then switch parts
There is in fact a frame in the 928; The car is referred to as a "unibody." That means that the frame and the body are unifiied or united into one unit. In that process some of the body becomes frame and some of the frame becomes body, but with some careful study one could remove a lot of sheet metal and be left with what looks very much like a ladder style car frame. If you focus on the the frame parts of the car you can pull them back to true and then work the body part of it all back into shape. Don't let these guys talk you out of trying it.
I would instead characterize it as more like a tub with molded in ribs. Regardless, when the OP posted "frame". and judging by his subsequent reaction, it appears he thought these were like traditional frame cars which are much easier to straightn and fix, once you pull everything off.
There's also a better then average chance that the tub you're trying to straighten will fracture when they start pulling on it. I'd start with a better project vehicle as cheap, neglected, but straight 928s aren't hard to find.
I would instead characterize it as more like a tub with molded in ribs. Regardless, when the OP posted "frame". and judging by his subsequent reaction, it appears he thought these were like traditional frame cars which are much easier to straightn and fix, once you pull everything off.
Ed, you are kind of preaching to the choir. Actually with the 928, if you remove the hood (body), the fenders (also body) and the front bumper cover (body) and then remove all of the mechanical and other stuff, like clean out the engine compartment and remove all the suspension and running rear and the bumper, what is left from the firewall forward is just about all frame. And, that includes the inner fenders at least as to the shock towers which are part of them, if those would be part of a frame. When all of that is done then what can be done with what is bent depends on the kind of equipment these guys might have available such as a place to anchor it and something or things to also anchor and pull with.
As to the OP's question about the "crash bar" which I think is simply the bumper bar, I think they ought to leave it there to pull on at least until they can get to the mounting bolts in it or the ones holding the bumper struts to the frame.
Anything can be fixed. I seem to recall that the Coca Cola car was rebuilt from something much like and maybe worse than this car. These guys are going to need a heavy duty torch to heat some of the bent metal; and when it gets to welding some replacement pieces back on I'll try to give them some suggestions about MIG welding with flux core wire which I have found is best for the kind of sheet metal work they are going to be involved with
Wish I was there to help or at least give some suggestions in this project.
Last edited by Jerry Feather; 11-11-2021 at 04:42 PM.
Ed, you are kind of preaching to the choir. Actually with the 928, if you remove the hood (body), the fenders (also body) and the front bumper cover (body) and then remove all of the mechanical and other stuff, like clean out the engine compartment and remove all the suspension and running rear and the bumper, what is left from the firewall forward is just about all frame. And, that includes the inner fenders at least as to the shock towers which are part of them, if those would be part of a frame. When all of that is done then what can be done with what is bent depends on the kind of equipment these guys might have available such as a place to anchor it and something or things to also anchor and pull with.
As to the OP's question about the "crash bar" which I think is simply the bumper bar, I think they ought to leave it there to pull on at least until they can get to the mounting bolts in it or the ones holding the bumper struts to the frame.
Anything can be fixed. I seem to recall that the Coca Cola car was rebuilt from something much like and maybe worse than this car. These guys are going to need a heavy duty torch to heat some of the bent metal; and when it gets to welding some replacement pieces back on I'll try to give them some suggestions about MIG welding with flux core wire which I have found is best for the kind of sheet metal work they are going to be involved with
Wish I was there to help or at least give some suggestions in this project.
Agreed. More classic "frame" parts up front under those skins. It is certainly doable as you say Jerry. They'll need the right jigs to do it.
11-09-2021, 03:51 AM
928 rebuild questions
