N/A AFM tune + Abuse + BHP predictions etc...
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It could be the 3kg was the pair ? (I've thought), but that would obviously be 1.5kg each, and they were definitely not that light, and besides your research found 1.8kg each did that also include the stem?, and these are the Electric and heated ones?
For a mirror they are staggeringly heavy...
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For a mirror they are staggeringly heavy...
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That makes more sense.
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That AFM looks like it is ready to invade Poland.
I don't have time or will to search and weight my old mirrors, but Im sure mirrors are not the only erroneous data in your list.
I like the project and your goals of pure NA car, but IMHO you are a bit overexcited and overaggressive over all this.
There was a lot of similar projects over the years here and posted results so expectations for your mods and performance figures you can get from them are pretty accurate.
There was even one Swede from Spain that made 900kg 944 made mostly of carbon fibre.
I don't have time or will to search and weight my old mirrors, but Im sure mirrors are not the only erroneous data in your list.
I like the project and your goals of pure NA car, but IMHO you are a bit overexcited and overaggressive over all this.
There was a lot of similar projects over the years here and posted results so expectations for your mods and performance figures you can get from them are pretty accurate.
There was even one Swede from Spain that made 900kg 944 made mostly of carbon fibre.
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I just had a thought,
If the above graph produced 174bhp, this is at the Crank right?
And this is withour afm, but autronic ecu upgrade, cam, wasted spark, no balance shafts, modified airbox etc..etc...
Why are the predicted figures from the Motley crew below higher ?
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I just had a thought,
If the above graph produced 174bhp, this is at the Crank right?
And this is withour afm, but autronic ecu upgrade, cam, wasted spark, no balance shafts, modified airbox etc..etc...
Why are the predicted figures from the Motley crew below higher ?
R
S2s are around 190 whp, so +16 hp more than that 2.5l, hence you could say that 174 whp means 211-16=195 bhp, I guess.
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Why are the predicted figures from the Motley crew below higher ?
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[QUOTE=Ish_944;12989656]No, that is on the wheels. ap?
This also puts from their calculations? (less 12% = 19000)
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This also puts from their calculations? (less 12% = 19000)
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I think you with the help of your disciples should set out on a quest to not only convince every owner of a beautiful AFM that they are Killing their car! but to go one better and market and sell your solutions worldwide...
As for the "but I'm sure mirrors are not the only erroneous data in your list" comments...
You can "£$%^&*( right off!
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As for the "but I'm sure mirrors are not the only erroneous data in your list" comments...
You can "£$%^&*( right off!
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Incredibility is the word!
Maybe that on the list!
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I look forward to opening this thread up every couple of hours and browsing through the hilarity that ensues. This is one of the most ridiculous threads in recent times. It beats the Extrude honed intake rant and even narrowly eeks out the AFM "debate" in terms of lulz/page.
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Yeah are you sure it wont be 500kg lighter? You can shave another 100kg from the roof just by stating it was 100kg before you work your magic to it.
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Just because the topic is now weight loss, I thought I'd post some details on my "diet" since I believe I have one of the lighter turbo street cars here.
Headlight mechanism delete---???
headlight motor delete---???
oil only cooled turbo/turbo water line and pump delete---??
HVAC/blower motor/ heater core delete---??
A/C and condensor delete---??
manual steering---??
ISV delete---??
AFM delete---??
DME/KLR delete---??
Distributor delete--??
headlight washer system delete---??
windshield washer system delete--??
Factory airbox delete--??
Body undertray delete--??
lightweight wiring harness---??
Rear wiper/motor delete---??
manual sunroof/stripped panel---??
emissions system delete--??
100% stripped interior/center console/doors/sound deadening, ect---??
semi stripped dashboard---??
lightened exhaust---??
cat delete---??
6 lb flywheel---??
cloth interior door pulls/handles---??
single lightweight racing seat---??
sheet metal lightening---??
Nearly all thermal insulation deleted--??
I have no idea what all that weighs, but my car STILL tips the scales at ~2600 lbs. Since it was 2900 lbs stock, I lost 300 lbs and the only thing I havnt done is fiberglass fenders and lexan to replace the glass.
Oh yeah, and the car is 350+ rwhp
Headlight mechanism delete---???
headlight motor delete---???
oil only cooled turbo/turbo water line and pump delete---??
HVAC/blower motor/ heater core delete---??
A/C and condensor delete---??
manual steering---??
ISV delete---??
AFM delete---??
DME/KLR delete---??
Distributor delete--??
headlight washer system delete---??
windshield washer system delete--??
Factory airbox delete--??
Body undertray delete--??
lightweight wiring harness---??
Rear wiper/motor delete---??
manual sunroof/stripped panel---??
emissions system delete--??
100% stripped interior/center console/doors/sound deadening, ect---??
semi stripped dashboard---??
lightened exhaust---??
cat delete---??
6 lb flywheel---??
cloth interior door pulls/handles---??
single lightweight racing seat---??
sheet metal lightening---??
Nearly all thermal insulation deleted--??
I have no idea what all that weighs, but my car STILL tips the scales at ~2600 lbs. Since it was 2900 lbs stock, I lost 300 lbs and the only thing I havnt done is fiberglass fenders and lexan to replace the glass.
Oh yeah, and the car is 350+ rwhp
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Dyno graphs:
http://www.augmentautomotive.co.uk/p...race-camshaft/
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I just had a thought,
If the above graph produced 174bhp, this is at the Crank right?
And this is withour afm, but autronic ecu upgrade, cam, wasted spark, no balance shafts, modified airbox etc..etc...
Why are the predicted figures from the Motley crew below higher ?
Yours is the highest also ......
Only I'm running with an afm........and not wasted spark
ISH 191.6
Odonnell 189
Arominus 188
Dougs951S 188
V2Rocket 180
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Thats for the 2.5, im probably giving the 2.7 too much credit. Downgrading to 170 crank here.
Dyno graphs:
http://www.augmentautomotive.co.uk/p...race-camshaft/
/QUOTE]
I just had a thought,
If the above graph produced 174bhp, this is at the Crank right?
And this is withour afm, but autronic ecu upgrade, cam, wasted spark, no balance shafts, modified airbox etc..etc...
Why are the predicted figures from the Motley crew below higher ?
Yours is the highest also ......
Only I'm running with an afm........and not wasted spark
ISH 191.6
Odonnell 189
Arominus 188
Dougs951S 188
V2Rocket 180
R