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Old 12-02-2013, 12:58 PM
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Looks the same Block pattern, now does it fit the 3.5/3.7 pattern we're in biz.

http://www.reidracing.biz/transmissi...rd-bellhousing

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this suggests otherwise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...using_patterns
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this suggests otherwise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...using_patterns
Old 12-02-2013, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
power would be about the same with the V8, but there is something attractive about an engine so commonplace that it is almost disposable if something goes wrong. with a big enough truck and a few hours i could bring home 5 such engines on any given day at the boneyard.

disposable lends itself to boost-friendliness...


The 3.5 is commonplace. Its in about every ford and Lincoln made after 2011. It should also be boost friendly.

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If it's the same as the Coyote V8, I may be making an adapter to mate it to the Vette TT for a Piranha Bro customer, so I can just punch in the 944 TT dims.
It may be a few weeks, but I will do some reasearch on bell housing dimensions and compatability.
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
The 3.5 is commonplace. Its in about every ford and Lincoln made after 2011. It should also be boost friendly.
not $200-and-youve-got-another-whole-running-engine commonplace.

im not trying to dog the idea of the v6 swap, i support it entirely. different strokes you know.
Old 12-02-2013, 02:06 PM
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That's true, but a $200 4.6 likely is in the same 275hp range as the 3.5. For guys like me that just want reliable OEM power the 3.5 may be worth it. The 4.6 is a cheap platform to build on.
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The 4.6 share BH pattern with the coyote 5.0, it is a VERY similar block and even shares the same cylinder spacing and similar head castings as the 32v cobra 4.6. It is NOT the same as the duratec family AFAIK. I would LOVE to see somebody put a duratec motor into our cars, its literally one of the most commonplace motors in the united states and dont ALL 3.5's have forged internals?
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Originally Posted by Dougs951S
The 4.6 share BH pattern with the coyote 5.0, it is a VERY similar block and even shares the same cylinder spacing and similar head castings as the 32v cobra 4.6. It is NOT the same as the duratec family AFAIK. I would LOVE to see somebody put a duratec motor into our cars, its literally one of the most commonplace motors in the united states and dont ALL 3.5's have forged internals?
The old duratecs and new duratecs changed bell housings so I'm not sure what it's got.

The article I found says that new duratecs are all 6 bolt main with forged rods and cranks. Someone else has told me its the same rods and crank they use in the 3.5 ecoboost (and same block)

A friend just found one reasonably local for $250 and only 50k on the clock.


Has anyone done throttle by wire in a 944? That will be the next thing. If we can't mount a ford gas pedal (I hear its easy) then it may take a custom tune to go back to cable.
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I personally hate throttle-by-wire and the fords especially suck for throttle response in low load situations like heel-toeing. It'd have to be cable driven if it were in my car.
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It sounds like we should be calling this "cyclone" instead of duratec to differentiate the old duratec.

Here are dimension ps I've found:
Width - 25in at the valve covers
Length - 23in without accessories
Height - 30.5in

That height look like it may be a killer... Any thoughts?

http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/_...ne-tech-v2.pdf
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This is why i wish there was a "swaps" sub forum. It drives at least some R&D. Keep it up.
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I am also interested to see where this whole 2.3t mustang business goes. There could be gobs of aftermarket support and I hear rumors that ford may even offer swap parts (for older fords) through ford racing. If this catches on, it could be interesting.
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http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/category_s/520.htm
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
I missed that. I'm still waiting to see how the 2.3 develops. They are saying 300hp+ out of the box.

The mustang platform should also spur aftermarket support.
Old 12-03-2013, 03:35 PM
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got Turbo/592hp??

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...otor_for_2298/


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