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Old 11-26-2013, 02:09 PM
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Two used 944 engines and a bottle of Jack to ease the pain.
Old 11-26-2013, 02:59 PM
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Would a Honda or Toyota V6 be as reliable if taken to redline a lot? That's just the first thing that popped into my mind
Old 11-26-2013, 03:21 PM
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But it would not be Porsche any more? What a reason to buy Porsche with proper Porsche engine if you could get 924 with VW engine there. Hmmmm....

Just buy Honda 2000S?
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Someone needs to drop a VW / Audi 2.0T into a 944.
Old 11-26-2013, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sausagehacker
I'm sure I'm not the first one to bring this up, but for whatever reason it's been on my mind all morning. I know I can't afford to throw money at a LS swap, and at the same time... I have a worrying oil pressure issue with the 2.5

The ideal engine for a 'budget' swap into a NA 944 would be something reliable, efficient, doesn't require a ton of driveline modification, and preserves the spirit of the car.

Go ahead and flame if you want, but a Honda 3.5 could be a great swap option. It's higher output than the 2.5, but won't require a 951 trans/clutch or bigger brakes. The fact that they're common, cheap, efficient, and reliable also give it credence.

I've never done an engine swap, so I could be way off on this. I know some parts like the bellhousing, mounts, and headers would have to be custom.

I used the search function as well as Google but couldn't find anything concrete about 944 Honda swaps. Anyone on here have any knowledge on it?
What kind of oil pressure problem are you having?
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I suggest to consider a 968 conversion.

- 968 conversion is a well trodden path, there shouldn't be any unpleasant surprises.

- a 944 with a 968 motor is basically still a stock 944 motor (S2 with some additional goodies).

- enough HP gain to make it worthwhile but not too much torque as to overwhelm a N/A drivetrain.

- if you can do it yourself and can get an inexpensive 968 motor, you may even just come out even should you decide at a later point to sell the car.

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Old 11-26-2013, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MN
a 944 with a 968 motor is basically still a stock car (S2 with some additional goodies).
minus the transmission and 951/941 suspension/brakes/etc.

You'd need the computer, exhaust, radiator...but I agree. If it was me and I was gonna replace the N/A engine, I'd do it with another Porsche engine.
Old 11-26-2013, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sausagehacker
I have a worrying oil pressure issue with the 2.5

The ideal engine for a 'budget' swap into a NA 944 would be something reliable, efficient, doesn't require a ton of driveline modification, and preserves the spirit of the car.
Howdy fellow Michael AND fellow Blue Moon drinker..

plenty of good suggestions already on this thread but here's one to consider:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151171025965 $400 + other items as needed.

Just trying to add some options to your mix..
After the holiday, let us know sup with the oil pressure.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Someone needs to drop a VW / Audi 2.0T into a 944.
It will be better option from RS TT 2.5 turbo 5 cylinder.
Old 11-26-2013, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MN
- if you can do it yourself and can get an inexpensive 968 motor, you may even just come out even should you decide at a later point to sell the car.
good luck with that bit...i've not yet seen a 968 motor sell for less than a decent-condition runnng 944 car.

for the average sell price of a 968 motor i could nearly buy a crate LS3.


if i were to do a V6 id probably wait until the GM 3.6DI motor comes in a box.
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Originally Posted by phlfly
It will be better option from RS TT 2.5 turbo 5 cylinder.
If you are going to go that route, might as well use the 2.2 liter Audi turbo from the same era as the 944. Capable of some serious power and who knows, had VW / Audi hung onto the 924 project it may have found its way in there by the factory......
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minus the transmission and 951/941 suspension/brakes/etc.

You'd need the computer, exhaust, radiator...but I agree. If it was me and I was gonna replace the N/A engine, I'd do it with another Porsche engine.
I stand corrected, meant to say - stock 944 motor -.

N/A transmission can take a 968 motor, at least if properly shifted and driven (street car).
Old 11-26-2013, 06:07 PM
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Depends on how much you love your car. Sometimes you get to the point where financially you're better off parting out and getting another car.
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Originally Posted by Charlie
What kind of oil pressure problem are you having?
See here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/924-931-...-pressure.html

FWIW, I've run 15W-50 synthetic year round here in Austin (just south of the OP) for the past 19 years I've had the car, and the engine oil pressure and usage is still normal. I know it's not ideal for freezing weather but the weather changes so fast here, it's crazy.

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Old 11-26-2013, 06:08 PM
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"for the average sell price of a 968 motor i could nearly buy a crate LS3."

There are bargains out there, I paid $1800 although the motor was disassembled (for parts sale?)


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