adrian jaye

Why is it that all I tend to see on this and other BBS's questions about people wanting to convert there 24's 44's etc.

By dropping a 44 lump into a 24, or sticking a chevy block into a 68 or putting a 68 flywheel and clutch assy in a 44 or 24 or how can I convert my N/A into a turbo. etc.etc.etc.

If you don't like your 24, buy a 44. Want a nice 68, duh call me stupid but why not buy one.

A lot of these mod's can be done. BUT at what cost. When you add upp all the other bit's you need (for safety and correct conversion), extra cost of insuring a modified car. It's got to be cheaper to buy the real thing.

I mean the price difference between a 24 and a 44 is not going to bankrupt you. OK depending on what you want, you might want to try saving up the money.

OK, I can understand if you want to buy a Ferrari,Lambo or Buggati kit car. The real thing's are out of our price range.

The only ppl who don't seem to want or have the need to convert there rides are the 11's, boxsters etc crowd. I wonder why ????

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a nicely customised car,paint job's, bodywork, engine mod's, chip's.

Though some of the purists would still stay away from anything to wild.

These are Porsche's after all.

A Porsche to me does not need to be riced' up. Grant it some of the older ones may not have some of the refinements or performance as some of the jap crap that's about.

But, how fast do you really want to go on a public highway. Can you really use all 400 BHP and if you think it's going to attract women, thats wrong for a start.

Most women will just like a car 'cos it's shiny, smart and red. If it happens to be a Porsche "BONUS".

Your car will get her in but will your personality keep her there ??

Sorry I digress.

Porsche's along with other similar prestige car's are precision pieces of equipment. Why do you think they cost so much to maintain.

When a designer sit's down to "make" a car he has all sort's of concern's.

Safety, Performance, Handling, longeveity, Windresistance, look's, styling.

Everything is there for a reason. If you don't like the lack of power in a standard 24' then buy a turbo or a 68.

But don't think you can shoehorn a V8 chevy with Carlos Fandango extra wide 10" wheel's, racing clutch, super charged and expect it not to have problems.

The other thing of course it now ceases to be a Porsche.

If you want to do these thing's then buy a nice little Nissan or an Impretsa or a Chevy.

And then you can go dragging with the other boy racer's (off the public highway please, don't want you killing me or mine now !) and play let's see who can p-i-s-s the furthest !

Me, I've got a Porsche, I'm relativly happy with it (would'nt mind a 68), not going to turn it into something it's not. Looking at some mod's (Porsche or Specalist approved).

As for when these nappy headed ricer's want to show me what they've got, I just let them fly past me just so they can see the Badge on the bonnet which say's PORSCHE.

Don't got nothing to prove, When you've got a Porsche you don't need to !

Sorry 'bout the rant. Sorry if I've offended anyone, but hey that's life and it suck's

Adrian Jaye

91 S2 RED CAB

keith

Adrian - no offense here, but I was wondering if you were American or Sweedish, perhaps?

No hot-rodding blood in there?

Tabor

Because it costs less to add a 968 engine to my '87 944 than it does to buy a 968.

Also, my 944 is lighter.

ian

There are many reason that people do these things.

My reason is more about the process, I love seeing what I can do with a car. Sure I am changing it's nature, but watching my ideas take shape is worth the frustration and money.

Sometimes people get attached to a car, sure it is no logical, but people arn't logical.

I know my dream 924/944 is a 924 GTS, can I get one, no, they are to scarce and would fetch and outstanding price. So instead I am planning on buying a 924, buying the body conversion parts and slipping in a 951 engine. Could I get equal performance for less money, sure I bet I could, but that is not what I am after. I am after a car that has the look of the 924 GTS, and the performance of my 951. That and again I think the process will be fun.

my944

Hey Adrian,

Thanks for the good laugh. I guess you must have a ton of time and misplaced agression to deal with, judging by the length of your "bitch" session. The laugh came from your talk of always reading about conversions. Try this: READ ONLY THE ARTICLES THAT INTEREST YOU! Hmmm, that's a thought. And so far as to complain about certain topics, I would rather not hear about pitiful complaints, so usually I bypass them. But yours was such a novel, that I could not pass up the oppurtunity for some good sleeping-aid material.

Best Regards

Manning

Adrian, you must be new to the world of Porsches. If you pick up any copy of 911 and Porsche World, Excellence or Panorama you will see article after article detailing some conversion or modification someone has made to their 911 or 914. How many 911S models from the early 70's actually had a 3.2 installed as new. None. Yet there are plenty of articles that cover this conversion or something like it.

There are far more 6 cylinder 914s on the road than ever rolled out of the factory. And the original 914/6 had a 2.0L motor. I am not too sure I have seen an article recently about a 2.0L 914/6, but I have seen articles about other 914/6 conversions.

You know why people ask about and do this stuff, because it is fun and a good way to spend free time. If you read Grassroots Motorsports, editor Tim Suddard pointed out that working on his 914 was a good way for him to be distracted after 11 September so that he wouldn't keep pondering what had happened.

How many '32 Ford COupes rolled off the line with a Cadillac motor and a metallic flame job? None, but there are plenty of those on the road. Get my point?

Matt O.

Because many people just like to tinker with their cars, $ not really a big deal (for some). And for others, it may be cheaper. Do you really think Tabor cares if some or rice boy girl knows he'll have a 3.0 under the hood instead of a 2.5? Doubtful. FYI Tabor let me know how that conversion is going.

All in all I think to each his own.

-Matt

Tabor

The conversion is kindof on hold. I am going to start school full time for Winter term. I will keep the engine and install it eventually, but probably no time soon. Maybe if I can get a good summer job.

adrian jaye

<giggles>
Hey Keith,
no offense at all,
neither.
hot rodding, sure, but not in my baby !

adrian jaye

adrian jaye

Hey always pleased to oblige, glad you took the time to read my post and give me your view's

Which is what this forum is all about

Peace out my brother

Manning

Michelangelo's David isn't missing an arm, is your point that adding an arm would make it have three?

Three Capris, are you from Europe?

Manning

Oh yeah, duh, I guess I should have noticed the little UK at the bottom of your post. You all get the interesting cars over there, like the Escort RS Cosworth and such.

adrian jaye

Maybe some car's were ment to be modded,

I suppose it depends on your view point

are you a Concours man
are you a just service the car
are you a mild to wild man ?

From experience, modding a car up will get you a major derpreciation value.

15g's worth of car is not going to get modded

ian

Well no I would no alter a one off masterpiece, but there are a lot of 924/44 around the roads and I would rather people tweak and tune them in their own image rather than letting them rust away and eventually head off to the junk yard.

I am not saying that our cars have no beauty in stock form, If I had the money, but I don't, I would love to have a stock 951 as well as my slightly modified version. But I don't view changes to our cars like I would look at swapping engines in a ferrari 250 GTO.