New 929 (928) is the 944 Next (Photo)
07-18-2011, 06:19 PM
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There's been a lot of talk about that 929 front engined hybrid. But 929 is a Mazda designation so it might just be a factory code for that model and not a release number.
07-18-2011, 07:12 PM
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Yea, supposedly based on the Panamera chassis except minus 2 doors. Should be pretty sweet if they actually build it. Porsche will be reminded of the glory days of the FR layout days!
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07-18-2011, 08:50 PM
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I think it is very unlikely they would bring a 944 type car to market.
A 928 is possible, the 2-door Panamera idea that is thrown around. That's because the 928 was still a high-end luxury vehicle throughout it's run.
A 944 type car would not fit the current line up at all. I hate to say it but the type of sports car that the 924/44 heavily influenced almost doesn't exist anymore. There's barely a RX, Nissan Z car, no Celica or Supra, Honda's CR-Z isn't close, etc. What's worse, now that Porsche is with VW group, A VW or Audi will fill the void of that 'entry-level' style sports car that was the 4 banger transaxles.
What would be awesome would be a sort of 'Porsche light' almost sub marquee, that had a whole modular line up. 924 4 pot to compete with entry level Japanese or American 'sports' cars (~20,000) A 931 with a hybrid drivetrain, ala the CR-Z. These would have a slimmer body ala the 924. Next would be a 944, probably a flat 6 or something, wider body and compete with cars like a GT stang or higher end Z in performance and price. 951 would of course be a boosted version. And as a top of the line, a 944 Carrera GT (I guess you could call it a 948 or 968 it doesn't matter this is never going to happen any way, I'm just bored at work...) and run a V8 in it.
God I hate to say it but set it up like Scion. It's for a younger generation, but still has something to offer for higher end buyers. Use the same body for all the cars, but the 944 and up have wide body fenders. Produce a ton of extras in the form of bumper variants, pop-up head lights for the old school, plastic CGT style fenders stock, but upgrade or buy carbon fiber ones, etc. Play mix and match on a 924 to give it a CGT body with euro rear bumpers and american fronts... all inspired by but modern designs of course.
Ehh anyway like I said, I'm bored at work, and sadly I think you will never see a 944 type vehicle in Porsche's inventory ever again. Actually I think it's very unlikely that a lot of the cars from the late 70's to early 90's that are of that type will ever show up in some form or another again.
A 928 is possible, the 2-door Panamera idea that is thrown around. That's because the 928 was still a high-end luxury vehicle throughout it's run.
A 944 type car would not fit the current line up at all. I hate to say it but the type of sports car that the 924/44 heavily influenced almost doesn't exist anymore. There's barely a RX, Nissan Z car, no Celica or Supra, Honda's CR-Z isn't close, etc. What's worse, now that Porsche is with VW group, A VW or Audi will fill the void of that 'entry-level' style sports car that was the 4 banger transaxles.
What would be awesome would be a sort of 'Porsche light' almost sub marquee, that had a whole modular line up. 924 4 pot to compete with entry level Japanese or American 'sports' cars (~20,000) A 931 with a hybrid drivetrain, ala the CR-Z. These would have a slimmer body ala the 924. Next would be a 944, probably a flat 6 or something, wider body and compete with cars like a GT stang or higher end Z in performance and price. 951 would of course be a boosted version. And as a top of the line, a 944 Carrera GT (I guess you could call it a 948 or 968 it doesn't matter this is never going to happen any way, I'm just bored at work...) and run a V8 in it.
God I hate to say it but set it up like Scion. It's for a younger generation, but still has something to offer for higher end buyers. Use the same body for all the cars, but the 944 and up have wide body fenders. Produce a ton of extras in the form of bumper variants, pop-up head lights for the old school, plastic CGT style fenders stock, but upgrade or buy carbon fiber ones, etc. Play mix and match on a 924 to give it a CGT body with euro rear bumpers and american fronts... all inspired by but modern designs of course.
Ehh anyway like I said, I'm bored at work, and sadly I think you will never see a 944 type vehicle in Porsche's inventory ever again. Actually I think it's very unlikely that a lot of the cars from the late 70's to early 90's that are of that type will ever show up in some form or another again.
07-18-2011, 08:55 PM
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ummm, if they make a new 944 i don't think it will be called the nine-six-nine, but by the 929 thinking it will sort of need to be.
07-18-2011, 09:24 PM
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Let's be optimistic here!
The idea of the "common man's sports car" is coming back again.
The ft86/scion/toyota/subara whatever it will be called is promising. It's possible that Nissan will release a 4 banger Z-like car. The NSX is coming back, ok maybe that's a bit of a stretch.
The 1 M is a good example too, it's not cheap, but, it would have been the price of tricked out S2 in it's day I think.
The idea of the "common man's sports car" is coming back again.
The ft86/scion/toyota/subara whatever it will be called is promising. It's possible that Nissan will release a 4 banger Z-like car. The NSX is coming back, ok maybe that's a bit of a stretch.
The 1 M is a good example too, it's not cheap, but, it would have been the price of tricked out S2 in it's day I think.
07-18-2011, 09:50 PM
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I think it is very unlikely they would bring a 944 type car to market.
A 928 is possible, the 2-door Panamera idea that is thrown around. That's because the 928 was still a high-end luxury vehicle throughout it's run.
A 944 type car would not fit the current line up at all. I hate to say it but the type of sports car that the 924/44 heavily influenced almost doesn't exist anymore. There's barely a RX, Nissan Z car, no Celica or Supra, Honda's CR-Z isn't close, etc. What's worse, now that Porsche is with VW group, A VW or Audi will fill the void of that 'entry-level' style sports car that was the 4 banger transaxles.
What would be awesome would be a sort of 'Porsche light' almost sub marquee, that had a whole modular line up. 924 4 pot to compete with entry level Japanese or American 'sports' cars (~20,000) A 931 with a hybrid drivetrain, ala the CR-Z. These would have a slimmer body ala the 924. Next would be a 944, probably a flat 6 or something, wider body and compete with cars like a GT stang or higher end Z in performance and price. 951 would of course be a boosted version. And as a top of the line, a 944 Carrera GT (I guess you could call it a 948 or 968 it doesn't matter this is never going to happen any way, I'm just bored at work...) and run a V8 in it.
God I hate to say it but set it up like Scion. It's for a younger generation, but still has something to offer for higher end buyers. Use the same body for all the cars, but the 944 and up have wide body fenders. Produce a ton of extras in the form of bumper variants, pop-up head lights for the old school, plastic CGT style fenders stock, but upgrade or buy carbon fiber ones, etc. Play mix and match on a 924 to give it a CGT body with euro rear bumpers and american fronts... all inspired by but modern designs of course.
Ehh anyway like I said, I'm bored at work, and sadly I think you will never see a 944 type vehicle in Porsche's inventory ever again. Actually I think it's very unlikely that a lot of the cars from the late 70's to early 90's that are of that type will ever show up in some form or another again.
A 928 is possible, the 2-door Panamera idea that is thrown around. That's because the 928 was still a high-end luxury vehicle throughout it's run.
A 944 type car would not fit the current line up at all. I hate to say it but the type of sports car that the 924/44 heavily influenced almost doesn't exist anymore. There's barely a RX, Nissan Z car, no Celica or Supra, Honda's CR-Z isn't close, etc. What's worse, now that Porsche is with VW group, A VW or Audi will fill the void of that 'entry-level' style sports car that was the 4 banger transaxles.
What would be awesome would be a sort of 'Porsche light' almost sub marquee, that had a whole modular line up. 924 4 pot to compete with entry level Japanese or American 'sports' cars (~20,000) A 931 with a hybrid drivetrain, ala the CR-Z. These would have a slimmer body ala the 924. Next would be a 944, probably a flat 6 or something, wider body and compete with cars like a GT stang or higher end Z in performance and price. 951 would of course be a boosted version. And as a top of the line, a 944 Carrera GT (I guess you could call it a 948 or 968 it doesn't matter this is never going to happen any way, I'm just bored at work...) and run a V8 in it.
God I hate to say it but set it up like Scion. It's for a younger generation, but still has something to offer for higher end buyers. Use the same body for all the cars, but the 944 and up have wide body fenders. Produce a ton of extras in the form of bumper variants, pop-up head lights for the old school, plastic CGT style fenders stock, but upgrade or buy carbon fiber ones, etc. Play mix and match on a 924 to give it a CGT body with euro rear bumpers and american fronts... all inspired by but modern designs of course.
Ehh anyway like I said, I'm bored at work, and sadly I think you will never see a 944 type vehicle in Porsche's inventory ever again. Actually I think it's very unlikely that a lot of the cars from the late 70's to early 90's that are of that type will ever show up in some form or another again.
I said before that Nissan really needs to reactivate the Datsun lineup. In other words as you say cheaper and some sporty cars. Hyundai was a joke when it came right? Not any more. I was at the Cadillac dealer, who also sells Hyundai on the same lot. I asked him about his choices for a car. He said " Hyundai - no doubt."
But for Nissan to get Datsun back in action, and Porsche maybe too, it would take removing the Datsun line from the Nissan dealer. They would have to have be at their own dealership as it was before. The Nissan dealerships would not accept it. They are now trying to sell $30,000 Altimas, and $40,000 Maximas and $50,000 Z's. So they would hide a Datsun in the the back lot. Just like Harley dealers did the Buells.
With the price of Porsche today and what they want to sell, it might have to be a separate dealer as well. But I think it is just too tall an order.
07-18-2011, 10:10 PM
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Let's be optimistic here!
The idea of the "common man's sports car" is coming back again.
The ft86/scion/toyota/subara whatever it will be called is promising. It's possible that Nissan will release a 4 banger Z-like car. The NSX is coming back, ok maybe that's a bit of a stretch.
The 1 M is a good example too, it's not cheap, but, it would have been the price of tricked out S2 in it's day I think.
The idea of the "common man's sports car" is coming back again.
The ft86/scion/toyota/subara whatever it will be called is promising. It's possible that Nissan will release a 4 banger Z-like car. The NSX is coming back, ok maybe that's a bit of a stretch.
The 1 M is a good example too, it's not cheap, but, it would have been the price of tricked out S2 in it's day I think.
Optimistic would be nice. But I am on the other side for now.
The manufacturers can easily build these cars. And for cheaper too. But I dont think we in the USA will ever see them.
We have way way way too many regualtions now.
By the time the EPA, the DOT, the CARB, all the way down the line including probably the Dept of Justice and the Civil Rights Dept
, get all their way these cars will never roll here. And all that is before the Insurance indutry and groups, the tree huggers, the medical marijuana, and whoever else can get their unknowing lips in motion. They could, and they should but I thnk they ain't ! I know they "ain't" without some serious changes.But hey in China they could become big quick. Now they will just need more good surfaced curvy roads !
07-18-2011, 10:57 PM
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I predict in the near future, most cars will be:
Much much lighter, more fuel efficient (ie turbo/hybrid tech), but, with more electronic leashes.
However, this does mean, with a bit of tinkering, they could become monster machines. That is as long as they stay in the FR layout.
Worst case is, we just stick with our 944's forever and just keep putting the latest and greatest engines in them!
Much much lighter, more fuel efficient (ie turbo/hybrid tech), but, with more electronic leashes.
However, this does mean, with a bit of tinkering, they could become monster machines. That is as long as they stay in the FR layout.
Worst case is, we just stick with our 944's forever and just keep putting the latest and greatest engines in them!