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Old 05-25-2010, 05:11 PM
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I did some searching on sloppy shift stick flopping about. I peeled my shift boot back to take a look and as I suspected the pin on the shaft lever is worn out, looks like it was jerry rig repaired at one point. But it is in pretty ruff shape, flops an inch or two even with in gear. Attached some pics. I didn't take the linkage off to fully inspect the pin though, pretty sure that washer or whatever that's holding the pin on is gonna break if I try to remove it, and it's my daily so I can't bother with that until the weekend and I have parts on hand.

Rather than trying to repair it, I really just wanna put a fresh one in there. But I have some questions regarding what parts to order.

On my list I have
Shift Lever - PP477.711.205D
Bushing - PP944.424.231.01
Circle clip - PP477.711.269 (is this the C clip holding the pin onto the linkage bar)

Am I missing anything?

as far as removal, just take those two bolts out on that metal thingy holding the plastic bushing down?

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Keaton
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:25 PM
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i heard there are 928 or 968 ( cant remember which) plastic bushings that slip over the pin to prevent it from wearing down again. I need to do this repair as well, its just something i remeber someone saying in another post.
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disconnect lever from shift rod, undo 2 bolts. entire lever+base comes out. push the plastic piece thru and out, might take some force.

reverse steps. make sure the round bevel of the plastic bushing matches orientation with the torq tube's profile or it won't go on
Old 05-25-2010, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KlineS147
i heard there are 928 or 968 ( cant remember which) plastic bushings that slip over the pin to prevent it from wearing down again. I need to do this repair as well, its just something i remember someone saying in another post.
I have posted this great repair many, many times over the years and still feel it is by far the best using the OE shift lever. It can all be done in the car even though the instructions say otherwise.

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Look at this http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=475449 .It's much better EDIT:I mean better than a standard new lever.
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hmm no acess to that page/site. Is it like a shorter shift kit? I kinda like the long shifts of this car. I have really long legs and arms hehe.
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hmm no acess to that page/site. Is it like a shorter shift kit? I kinda like the long shifts of this car. I have really long legs and arms hehe.
Same fix that Steve posted but done in a different way.You just have to register to see the page
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Check to make sure all the bolts on your linkage are tight as well, and be sure that the pointed bolt is in the hole properly, if not, this will allow for loads of side to side slop in the shifter.
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Originally Posted by ritzblitz
Check to make sure all the bolts on your linkage are tight as well, and be sure that the pointed bolt is in the hole properly, if not, this will allow for loads of side to side slop in the shifter.
Those are the bolts on top of your transxale that " ritblitz " is talking about the pointed bolt will be ( A ) the one connecting your shifter rod coming from inside the car to your shifte lingage it should be lock with a piece of wire if remove for any reason put it back on it's a safety.

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it might be worthwhile to do what i did - i had a very sloppy shifter, so i removed the lever, ground down the welded old worn out pin and knocked it out, drilled slightly larger and welded in a new pin of 3/8" rod, then drilled the shiftrod hole (also had been worn out of shape) to slightly over 3/8" and it was super tight
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Fix the part that goes over the shifter pin on the lever or it will wear out again. It only took 6 months for mine to wear down again.
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Originally Posted by KuHL 951
I have posted this great repair many, many times over the years and still feel it is by far the best using the OE shift lever. It can all be done in the car even though the instructions say otherwise.

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Does getting the shift lever out of the car require dropping the transaxle?
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Originally Posted by krystar
disconnect lever from shift rod, undo 2 bolts. entire lever+base comes out. push the plastic piece thru and out, might take some force.

reverse steps. make sure the round bevel of the plastic bushing matches orientation with the torq tube's profile or it won't go on
Originally Posted by Arominus
Does getting the shift lever out of the car require dropping the transaxle?
Nooooo! read krystar quote above.
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Originally Posted by Arominus
Does getting the shift lever out of the car require dropping the transaxle?

The shift lever has the gear shift **** on it; the shift tube is in the tunnel and runs back to the TA and it does not have to come out. With the shift lever and base cup removed, the shift tube can be raised and pulled forward enough to drill it from the sides while in the car.
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TIGHTEN THAT D/C NUT AND BOLT!!!

i had a severely sloppy shifter when i installed my new trans, i climbed under the rear with a couple of wrenches and had that shifter tight in a matter of minutes!! If these bolts are already tight you'll have to check out some of the other things that these smart guys have suggested...just here to share my experience


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