944 Owners with LS1 swaps please post in here..
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******a lightbulb just went on. is the renegade stuff CRAP - or just damn expensive ?*****
After doing alot of research and reading up on the burnt pilot bearings from the RH kits, I decided to design and machine my own adapter plate for the Corvette Bellhousing.. I checked 4 different C-5 Torque tubes 2 Autos and 2 manuals....to get the correct 944 TT shaft to Chevy Pilot center dimension that is absolutely CRITICAL. In doing so, I pissed in someones Wheaties because they were called out and felt infringed on by my design......Last time I checked, I still live in America. If you feel like you can do something better for 1/4 the price....well you get the point....
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My plates are easily spotted...
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After doing alot of research and reading up on the burnt pilot bearings from the RH kits, I decided to design and machine my own adapter plate for the Corvette Bellhousing.. I checked 4 different C-5 Torque tubes 2 Autos and 2 manuals....to get the correct 944 TT shaft to Chevy Pilot center dimension that is absolutely CRITICAL. In doing so, I pissed in someones Wheaties because they were called out and felt infringed on by my design......Last time I checked, I still live in America. If you feel like you can do something better for 1/4 the price....well you get the point....
![](http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/xschop/S5000032.jpg)
![](http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/xschop/c5bellhousing.jpg)
![](http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/xschop/C5torque_tube_front.jpg)
![](http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/xschop/S5000007.jpg)
![](http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/xschop/S5000011.jpg)
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My plates are easily spotted...
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******xschop, can you confirm if the 4.8 vortec will work with all your parts?*****
What's cool about the Corvette C5 Bellhousing and Billet adapter plate is that it will fit ANY chevy V8. The only difference is that the pilot bearing adapter is 0.6" thick on Early SBC and LT1/4 engines, the LS and ironbloc 4.8/5.3/6.0 engines take a 1.00" thick pilot adapter because the crank journal ends are shorter by 0.4"
Greg Sloan wrote a swap manual and every detail to the swap is in there...it is a must to have. I bought one and I wish I had it before the journey....
What's cool about the Corvette C5 Bellhousing and Billet adapter plate is that it will fit ANY chevy V8. The only difference is that the pilot bearing adapter is 0.6" thick on Early SBC and LT1/4 engines, the LS and ironbloc 4.8/5.3/6.0 engines take a 1.00" thick pilot adapter because the crank journal ends are shorter by 0.4"
Greg Sloan wrote a swap manual and every detail to the swap is in there...it is a must to have. I bought one and I wish I had it before the journey....
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awesome photos... the implication is that the benefit of the preventative maintenance on my 968 engine is marginal... maybe i should do a belt kit and H20 pump kit then one more belt kit 45k miles later and no more... or just sell the engine outright.
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This will get you to the info...
http://944hybrids.forumotion.com/forum.htm
And the Manual...and the parts site.
Free, and cheap, in that particular order.
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Sad thing is I am an old Renegade customer as much as I am ashamed to admit that. I took the short cut, so I thought and bought their 100% deluxe kit. BAD move. Funny thing is if they would have treated their customers right they would have made $30 - $50k off me by now on the conversions I have done.
A hybrids board started around 5 or so years ago because of their BS, life was good until they decided to buy it, to control content. BAD move for them. Now it’s dead like Michael Jackson. Car people, let alone car builders, will not tolerate their chodeness.
They have a very long history of abusing their customers after getting paid in full. My disgust for them is well known. Almost every part of my original kit has failed. One leading to a high RPM clutch explosion. And this was their wammy jammy super deluxe Kevlar racing disk.
There have always been other people doing in house turn-key conversions. Or people like myself that can make their own parts or have them made. It is nice to see some guys come along with the right attitude and put together not only some parts as a kit but make them open source enough someone has to buy nothing from them. Great job. As I said earlier in the thread the conversion manual has my personal seal of approval, and yes I actually bought one.
“We” are comforted by the fact that the newest owner, not the original, of Renegade has a career to fall back on. http://www.mcdjscottm.com/
YO VANILLA KICK IT ONE TIME BOYEEE
A hybrids board started around 5 or so years ago because of their BS, life was good until they decided to buy it, to control content. BAD move for them. Now it’s dead like Michael Jackson. Car people, let alone car builders, will not tolerate their chodeness.
They have a very long history of abusing their customers after getting paid in full. My disgust for them is well known. Almost every part of my original kit has failed. One leading to a high RPM clutch explosion. And this was their wammy jammy super deluxe Kevlar racing disk.
There have always been other people doing in house turn-key conversions. Or people like myself that can make their own parts or have them made. It is nice to see some guys come along with the right attitude and put together not only some parts as a kit but make them open source enough someone has to buy nothing from them. Great job. As I said earlier in the thread the conversion manual has my personal seal of approval, and yes I actually bought one.
“We” are comforted by the fact that the newest owner, not the original, of Renegade has a career to fall back on. http://www.mcdjscottm.com/
YO VANILLA KICK IT ONE TIME BOYEEE
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Nice Rick...
The DJ site.
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If half their propaganda were the truth, Scott would be able to sell all his vinyl.
The 944 V8 Conversion is becoming what it should have always been...
Legitimate. Renegade's "victims" are the reason the info is being posted freely.
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The DJ site.
"Rollin', in my 5-point-O
Top laid back
So my hair
Can blow..."
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If half their propaganda were the truth, Scott would be able to sell all his vinyl.
The 944 V8 Conversion is becoming what it should have always been...
Legitimate. Renegade's "victims" are the reason the info is being posted freely.
gt1scca@gmail.com
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this **** is awesome... thanks a lot... right now there is a stout [like maybe 535 hp], LS2 long block ready to go for $5,000... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
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i know, good luck getting that much $$$ for it, but the engine still looks good... better examples (ls2, ls3) come along every week or two, but they go fast... notice how that one says "make offer"... he's not going to get that much for it... i saw the deal of the year on a stock ls2 a few months ago and i am an *** for not buying it. makes me sick. it had 14 k miles on it and it went for $2,900 with EVERYTHING. out of a grand prix.
i am really leaning towards selling this engine, etc. and spend the money for the engine i want. it will just require that i wait an extra 2 or 3 months to be driving the finished product. it will be a goodwrench crate ls2, and it will get the heads done at [total engine airflow] in ohio, a cam, and the [fast] intake. with harness and accessories, it will come in around $9 k.
i am really leaning towards selling this engine, etc. and spend the money for the engine i want. it will just require that i wait an extra 2 or 3 months to be driving the finished product. it will be a goodwrench crate ls2, and it will get the heads done at [total engine airflow] in ohio, a cam, and the [fast] intake. with harness and accessories, it will come in around $9 k.
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It is nice to see some guys come along with the right attitude and put together not only some parts as a kit but make them open source enough someone has to buy nothing from them. Great job. As I said earlier in the thread the conversion manual has my personal seal of approval, and yes I actually bought one.
My knowledge is shadowed by your experience.
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Ice is back with my brand new invention"... -SM
As for everyone else, my intentions are stated clearly in the manual...I am only making the information readily obtainable. I have included machine-ready drawings in the manual, and the parts site is there for the individuals that wish to leave fabrication headaches to someone else. This ain't "rocket surgery"...
Nor is it a DJ booth.
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CPR, Remix?
Hardly...We add a new scratch to their vinyl daily.
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