roman944

pried the plastic cover open and see the belt all crammed up on the bottom

yay

probably not much damage - the car ran in the drive way then just shut off and wouldn't start

but, looking for options on repair, probably will just start taking the car apart etc.

VOoDOoGTX

hahaha sounds like your broke that timing belt....... um thats alot of work

roman944

damn man it's ok, I'm down for wrench time

I have 1/3 of fall, and all winter to get this done before spring

so, what stuff am I going to need for this? "while you are in there" jobs? figured might as well do the clutch, and what else?

probably front bearings and suspension related stuff

blah, oh well!

Van

Well, you have bent valves in the head - so, you're going to need a head job...

Along with your front main seal, you can replace your balance shaft seals and all the belt rollers and bearings.

Probably new power steering and alternator/AC belt, too.
if your AC doesn't work, you can remove the compressor and do the AC delete kit.

Might also be a good time to rebuild your power steering pump (that's a nice easy job with the kit I believe Rennbay sells).

You could also rebuild your throttle body. New intake seals are a must, of course. Perhaps it would be a good time to do new injector seals...

Of course it might be a good time for a new water pump (especially if it seized up - and that's what caused the belt to fail). And you'll end up doing a coolant flush when you do that.

Perhaps also change the little elbow hose that goes to the heater core tube.

Good luck. Sorry it happened.

thewerxracing

I thought you said (in your other thread),
your belt looked fine?

VOoDOoGTX

dude im about to start resembling my engine and im having a hard time figuring out all the gaskets im going too need. i want to replace everything i can when i do this. i see theirs kits for all the gaskets in the botom end and top end but what about everything for the intake ect.

As for the head theres a guy right here near me who did a full head job 3 way valve job race springs and ported and polished it for 1100$ made the thing look new. if you want his number let me know.

MM951

Van is spot on as usual.

Take it as a blessing.. once that is all fixed you will have a rock solid NA.

edit: and the work is actually quite easy on the n/a. I also think while your in there it would be an excellent time to reseal the oil cooler/ check the OPRV. With the head and exhaust manifold off it so easy to get to

VOoDOoGTX

I guess im going to have van write me a list of what i should order :/ haha. I like having someone that knows exactly what i should be replacing so when i order it i dont get into any of the oh shoot now i gota wait 3 weeks for a part.

Van

I'll do my best.... It's been a few years since I did a full rebuild...

Did you use Aldo for the head work? He did mine (and he does George Beuselink's (944 ecology)).

thewerxracing

So, how would one check to see if their timing belt is in order? Just crack open the cover and take a peek? what should you look for to prevent replacing the valves?

DarylJ

$1100 for a 3-angle grind and replacing springs on a 944 head (and presumably dipping/steaming if it looks "new")? That's quite a hosing. Just got that done, along with valve guide seals, for $350. At the place the Holbert's Porsche uses, so we're not talking fly by night or somebody who's only used to working on Chebby heads.

DarylJ

Yes, take off the top cover, preferably the bottom as well (so you can inspect the pulleys and see if there are any bits of belt in the bottom). You're looking for cracks/tears/missing or worn teeth or sides of the belt. You're looking to see that the pulleys are in good shape, and the both belts are properly tensioned.

VOoDOoGTX

he honed the intake and ported and polished the head. gasket match ect.

DarylJ

I suppose that's a bit more in-line price wise. So from that I assume you intend to do the rest of the things that will actually make a ported/polished head worth having - because it probably won't make any difference at all on an otherwise stock motor.

VOoDOoGTX

i used Quality Machine shop in new paltz. hes a customer of mine so im kind of obligated. He does alot of work on the cars for skip barber racing.