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Old 10-25-2008, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ilikepinkcrayons
This is purely for my curiosity...if he wants to up the power, what about shaving the head and increasing compression ratio a bit? Would you need a adjustable cam shaft pulley, or does it matter?

I'm a student trying to graduate soon, so I haven't had time to take care of my early '85. But when I start work on it again, this is something I'd like if possible...


and on a similar note, what about euro pistons. I can't find those anywhere!
lol thanks for bringing this up now I don't have to and they can burn you

but, yeah, why not? and what was that about a 3.0L crank ...
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going to start this, any helpful info? threads that's done this with directions and/or pictures?

going to use Clark's Garage, anything else - please!
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balance shaft belt is ripped, how much trouble am I in? cover is off and it looks like that's the belt that's got ripped up and timing belt might be ok
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If the timing belt was OK, your'e fine. But didn't you say the car stalled at idle and wouldn't re-fire? If so, yes...it COULD be something else, but the timing is a bit too suspicious. It's entirely possible that your balance shaft belt got caught in a cam belt pulley and the cam belt, while still being physically in the right place, has had all of the teeth ripped off of it. In which case, you still bent valves.

Keep tearing it down.
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actually, the teeth are not stripped anywhere

see, when looking down from top it looked like bottom part of timing belt was hanging out

now the balance shaft belt is off, and it's just ripped in 1 place, that's all

so what we thought of trying is, instead of digging in - order the tools needed for timing belt job, order new belts and rollers (Paragon Products kit)

change the rollers and belts, and try to fire up the car, if it works and there is knocking/clunking - obviously something else is bad; if not, then take the chance

car turned over, but didn't start; had that problem before though; almost acts like it's out of gas
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I'm going to try and take a picture of both ends near each other on how it stripped, hold on
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as you see that's the belt and thats one point where it ripped, wonder why?

the teeth aren't beat up or anything, but it is a little greasy/dirty (obviously)

maybe a seized roller or something? should they all move freely or not?

any opinions, pointers, suggestions now?

thanks!
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right now trying to move alternator, is it supposed to go up or down? can't figure it out, it won't move, yet

tried a rubber hammer and it hasn't broken loose yet

also, right under the airbox, there is a hose , and underneath there are 2 wires that plug into a fitting on that hose; one of those wires on my car was NOT connected; not sure where or what that hose does, my dad thinks its fuel connected, but - yeah, any idea? we plugged it in "just to be sure/safe"
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got the belts off

found something else: right above the sway bar in front, where steering column connects, there are 2 rubber boots, for left side, and right side

one is torn

what are these called and what will it run?
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Tie rod boot. I don't know the cost, but probably not too much.

Does the water pump spin freely?
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I will go and look in the morning
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Originally Posted by roman944
change the rollers and belts, and try to fire up the car, if it works and there is knocking/clunking - obviously something else is bad; if not, then take the chance
Or you could just check to see if the cam timing is correct before you take the belt off and know whether you need a head or not immediately, rather than re-assembling the front end of the motor just to have to take it apart again.

Your call.
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Originally Posted by roman944
also, right under the airbox, there is a hose , and underneath there are 2 wires that plug into a fitting on that hose; one of those wires on my car was NOT connected; not sure where or what that hose does, my dad thinks its fuel connected, but - yeah, any idea? we plugged it in "just to be sure/safe"
picture please?
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*sigh*

my dad already took the belt off

I'll try to take a picture of that electrical connector a little later

now set the engine to TDC but I can't find that "opening" that Clark's Garage mentions; should take the piston route?


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