teamking

Here's the picture of the mystery hose...

944kid

Ooh, I'd replace that with something non-generic. But that's just me, I have no idea what it is! (non-owner's opinion)

Good luck!

teamking

Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to mention that's bothering me:

While tensioning the timing belt, I was able to use a wrench to turn the cam sprocket about 15 or 20 degrees, which turned the crank shaft, which turned the flywheel WHILE THE CAR WAS IN GEAR! Just to make sure I wasn't imagining things, I did it twice. Once in 1st and once in reverse.

Finally, I just shook my head and installed the flywheel lock (and was only able to turn the cam sprocket about 2*, as indicated in the Arnnworx instructions).

Is my clutch stuck disengaged?

black944 turbo

Change your fuel line !!!!!!!! Do not try and splice it. As for that hose, a generic hose will be fine, that is the hose from your cycling valve and it needs to be hooked up if the car is stock and still using that.

billthe3

Yeah, as said, that chewed up hose is fairly important in the crazy vacuum line setup. It runs between the cycling valve and the intake boot on the turbo.

TRWright

Rip that hose out along with the CV and stock wastegagte-- then get yourself a manual boost controller and a tial. . .

teamking

Just wondering if you could expand on your reasoning. I'd certainly forgive you if you haven't read all the posts that have accumulated in the this thread, but what I'm trying to do is just get the car running. If I can get it running, then I'll turn it in to a track car next winter. Maybe it makes sense to splice it for now, then put in a new line after I've confirmed that the car is viable. What are your thoughts on that?

alordofchaos

Dunno for sure what black944 turbo meant, but I'm guessing that if you do a search on "engine fire" - that would give you the answer

These cars are pretty bullet proof when maintained (except for electric gremlins), but old plastic and rubber can be bad news... vacuum leaks, etc.

And fuel vapors or leaks onto a hot engine/exhause is bad news...

black944 turbo

Those are my thoughts exactly, don't mess with old fuel lines. Buy a kit to replace it, they are about $100 and are well worth the money. I would say if you are just starting it in the drive way for 5 minutes, just splice it, if not don't mess with and put a kit on. Fires are not fun.

alordofchaos

- but keep a fire extinguisher handy!

teamking

If I've got this right, to replace this hose from PelicanParts you purchase a 'Control Line' assembly (part # OEM-95111006103, shown on diagram 'L-Jetronic 3, 944 Turbo' (http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...ILTER_TOOL=ON).

It's only $404.

So I'm thinking I'll try to make something else work. Any objections to EFI fuel hose?

Matt Sheppard

TeamKing:

The frayed hose in the picture you posted is NOT a fuel line, it's a simple vacuum hose that routes back to the cycling valve - a mechanism for controling boost. Many listers here have bypassed that mechanism entirely but just replace the crummy section with plain old vacuum hose of the correct dimension. The part you are calling out (that is $404) is a steel vacuum / crankcase vent manifold and you DEFINATELY need not replace it. If you want to find a proper Porsche hose, ask some lister who is parting out a car, but if I were in your shoes, I would splice it for now ; and I am no hack, I assure you.

Just splice the hose at a healthy place above the nipple and clamp it well then go on to the 300 other things that will need attention on your car.

I echo what has been said on this thread about not ever splicing fuel line, but that is not a fuel line

teamking

Sorry, I should have been more explicit in my question, which should have been:

Will EFI hose work, or must I use vaccum hose (because I've got EFI hose sitting around and don't know enough about the differences to know if EFI hose will do the job)?

black944 turbo

That should work.

teamking

Well, since there was another hose of similar type right next to my chewed up hose, I decided to take a look. No surprise, it was very much deteriorated as well. Unfortunately, I can't just go to the local auto store and find this fitting. In fact, I'm having no luck at all. I've been searching the internet for "banjo end", "banjo union", etc., but haven't found anything that's not for brake lines (and is consequently too small).

Any ideas on where to look?

I guess I'm going to try to call Paragon and 944online tomorrow. Anyone else I should try?

Thanks in advance!