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Old 03-06-2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mclaudio
Is this car actually a Firehawk car? When I saw the car at RR, I tried to ask one of the crew but didn't get an affirmed answer.

No, no turbos were ever run in the IMSA Firehawk series, only N/A's, S's, S2's, and 968's. The white Cup car shown in post #457 is one of the 9 US Escort/Cups indentified in this thread. VIN ...103.

As part of the Carlisle/Hawk marketing effort, there are a few cars that make the rounds thru various vintage races and pro races for advertizing. From a 69 Camaro to the Cragar & Hawk World Challenge Corvettes, to this 944 Turbo Cup. So the traveling pit crew likely does not have much specific knowledge of the 944, and you would have needed to find the owner to get the history on the car. Although now based in Charlotte NC, he still sends the car and/or its parts back to a p-car shop in MN to have major work done.

[edit - added quote & info to clarify which car/pic is being discussed]

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Old 03-06-2012, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Oddjob
That car is one of the 9 US Escort/Cups indentified in this thread. VIN ...103.
What car is 103? Not sure what you mean.

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Old 03-06-2012, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by centerpunch
What car is 103? Not sure what you mean.
This car:

Originally Posted by centerpunch
165103 Located
PMNA to Freddie Baker (racer and dealer, I think), Purchased by Al Grill in '87, purchased by Rich Moskalik 4/88.
Located, owned by David Roberts in Minnesota.
Old 03-06-2012, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Oddjob
165103 Located
PMNA to Freddie Baker (racer and dealer, I think), Purchased by Al Grill in '87, purchased by Rich Moskalik 4/88. Located, owned by David Roberts in Minnesota.
My brain is not following you today.

What does '87 #103 have to do with this '86 being auctioned. What did I miss?
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Originally Posted by centerpunch
My brain is not following you today.

What does '87 #103 have to do with this '86 being auctioned. What did I miss?

No connection between the two cars.

I was responding to the belated question in post #480, asking about the picture of the car I posted in post #457 from Rennsport reunion.
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I get it now. Thanks.
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Anybody how much the 944 Cup car was at the Gooding Auction today?
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Never mind. Found my answer: $72K.
Old 03-09-2012, 07:37 PM
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Hmmm. The cup car sold for $72 and a street Turbo S sold for $75? Weird.

EDIT: Those prices before 10% buyer's premium. The buyers paid $79K for the turbo cup and $82K for the Turbo S, which apparently had uber-low miles.

http://dedeporsche.wordpress.com/201...arch-9th-2012/
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:24 PM
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Default Amelia Island Auction Results

Download Prices Realized - GOODING & CO UPDATED FINAL SALE PRICES
http://www.goodingco.com/sites/defau...s_realized.pdf

Amelia Island, Florida
Friday, March 9, 2012
Total Sold for all of auction: $36,057,800 [includes all cars at auction]

~~DRENDEL FAMILY PORSCHES - FINAL SALE PRICE AT AUCTION March 9th, 2012~~
http://dedeporsche.wordpress.com/201...arch-9th-2012/
Lot#
46 1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S $82,500
47 1976 Porsche 935/76 $2,530,000
48 1980 Porsche 924 GTP $385,000
49 1997 Porsche 911 GT1 Evolution $1,265,000
50 1991 Porsche 944 S2 Cabriolet $39,600
51 1976 Porsche 934 $891,000
52 1987 McLaren MP4/3 Formula 1 $858,000
53 1984 Porsche 962 $1,925,000
54 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo Cup $79,200
55 1974 Porsche 911 Carrera RSR Turbo 2.14 $3,245,000
56 1994 Porsche 968 Turbo S Clone $72,600
57 1973 Porsche 917/30 Can-Am Spyder $4,400,000
58 1981 Porsche 944 GTP $308,000
59 1985 Porsche 962 $935,000
60 1992 Porsche 968 Turbo RS $346,500
62 1995 Porsche 911 GT2 - $357,500
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Holey Crap! Maybe my car is worth more that I thought.
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I've always thought the Cup cars should be worth at least $75K, looks like maybe I waited long enough to be right!
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Originally Posted by centerpunch
I've always thought the Cup cars should be worth at least $75K, looks like maybe I waited long enough to be right!
I think you'll be right at some point, if not now. I think the 80s are one of the highpoints for Porsches - success in racing, well-regarded production models, etc. The special 944s will have their day in the sun; the nostalgic age demographic still has a few years before their interest and incomes peak.

In one of SCM articles several years ago (entitled, "What's the next 904?," or something like that), I remember two of the aspects of a collectible Porsche that the author enumerated. One was factory Porsche race cars eventually have always become collectible. The second is about the relative current market value versus its original MSRP - if the two are close, then such car is approaching collectible status. I'll have to find that article, as I'm going from memory. At any rate, the Gooding auction 944 Cup result is nice to see. I hope to keep enjoying my Cup model.
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Mclaudio,

Next time I come to Seattle I need to stop and say hi.
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Originally Posted by ahetzel
Mclaudio,

Next time I come to Seattle I need to stop and say hi.
Surely. I may also make it to Chicago later this year - June or October.


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