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08-30-2005, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by eohrnberger
Hey! If my P-car can run on it without causing it problems, I'm all for it!
I'm not planning on anything so drastic, but I hope the increased use of e85 by the general public helps keep it affordable to run a couple P-cars
08-30-2005, 06:20 PM
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ConsumersReport.org - A Guide to Stretching Your Fuel Dollars
Just thought that I'd pass this along for everyone.
http://www.consumerreports.org/main/...lder_id=424369
Erik.
http://www.consumerreports.org/main/...lder_id=424369
Erik.
08-30-2005, 11:17 PM
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everywhere around me just jumped from 2.65-2.69 up to 2.99-ish...
i think it will stop once every other person is driving off. if everybody drives off, chances increase for us to get away
i think it will stop once every other person is driving off. if everybody drives off, chances increase for us to get away
08-31-2005, 12:37 AM
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Just drove past the corner gas station, and it was $2.80 for 87, seems like it went up $0.40 in 12 hours or less. Gonna be over $3.00 for 87 any day now.
Here is an idea:
What we need is a moratorium on all fuel taxes, both state and federal, for 60 days, until the impacted refining industry can get back on it's feet again. Bush has already declared the gulf coast a disaster area.
Consider also the great inflationary pressure that these fuel spike will cause all along the value chain. Of course the Fed. will increase the interest rates to keep the inflation in check, and the entire thing will be an impacted economy, reduced economic growth, fewer jobs, etc. etc.
Yea, right. Like the government will ever consider forgoing those tax revenues. For all I know, since the price of gas is up, so is their tax revenue?
Here is an idea:
What we need is a moratorium on all fuel taxes, both state and federal, for 60 days, until the impacted refining industry can get back on it's feet again. Bush has already declared the gulf coast a disaster area.
Consider also the great inflationary pressure that these fuel spike will cause all along the value chain. Of course the Fed. will increase the interest rates to keep the inflation in check, and the entire thing will be an impacted economy, reduced economic growth, fewer jobs, etc. etc.
Yea, right. Like the government will ever consider forgoing those tax revenues. For all I know, since the price of gas is up, so is their tax revenue?
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08-31-2005, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ljibis
Yeah, that's the next issue. A conversion to E85 would mean new fuel lines for sure, probably a new pump, and definitely a remap of the ECU because of the increased alcohol content. If you look at how the Big 3 change their cars to be FFV's it's really not a lot of stuff.
I'm not planning on anything so drastic, but I hope the increased use of e85 by the general public helps keep it affordable to run a couple P-cars
I'm not planning on anything so drastic, but I hope the increased use of e85 by the general public helps keep it affordable to run a couple P-cars
08-31-2005, 01:06 AM
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I spent a few hours today surfing various mountain bike sites. I think ive decided on a 2005 Kona Blast. At the prices I pay for gas, it shouldnt take me long to pay off even a $1kCDN mountain bike, since im planning on riding it to work once or twice a week at least 
Anyone else doing the same?
Anyone else doing the same?
08-31-2005, 01:13 AM
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It's interesting. On the drive home from work, the gas station i mentioned before was 2.90 still, yet the hess station was 2.62, so i got like 30 bucks of gas there. Then on teh way home a cumberland farms station (which the 2.90 station was also cumberland farms) was at 2.92... then the sunoco in town was 2.77.
It's very rare for these stations to be off even 5 cents from each other. the most i've seen is generally 7 cents from the lowest to the highest usually.
Are different stations getting their gas from different suppliers, and the more expensive ones are the ones affected by the hurricane issue? Or ar some stations just predicting, or trying to take advantage of the storm, figuring people will buy from them figuring its so expensive due to the storm? Only other idea i can think of is they sell for 2.90 now, they can probably charge 2.90 later when others are selling for 3.50, for a certain amount of time anyway.
It's very rare for these stations to be off even 5 cents from each other. the most i've seen is generally 7 cents from the lowest to the highest usually.
Are different stations getting their gas from different suppliers, and the more expensive ones are the ones affected by the hurricane issue? Or ar some stations just predicting, or trying to take advantage of the storm, figuring people will buy from them figuring its so expensive due to the storm? Only other idea i can think of is they sell for 2.90 now, they can probably charge 2.90 later when others are selling for 3.50, for a certain amount of time anyway.
08-31-2005, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by yieldsign2
. . . . . Are different stations getting their gas from different suppliers, and the more expensive ones are the ones affected by the hurricane issue? Or ar some stations just predicting, or trying to take advantage of the storm, figuring people will buy from them figuring its so expensive due to the storm? Only other idea i can think of is they sell for 2.90 now, they can probably charge 2.90 later when others are selling for 3.50, for a certain amount of time anyway.
I think that the market is still absorbing a huge pricing change impact and struggling what that all means. I've spoken to the owner of the BP station around the corner, and they said that corporate 'suggests' a price to them, and they can vary from there. Up typically.
To the best of my knowledge, there aren't all that many gas distributors. The gas stations are franchises to get the name and a connection with the local distributor. The product is basically all the same, except for some coloring stuff that the distributor puts in so that you'll feel good getting that XXX brand blue gas rather than the YYY brand clear gas, or whatever. Just think of the infrastructure costs, pipelines, pigs and the like, if you had to send separate mixes of fuels for each brand. It's already bad enough that the states have asserted 17 truly different blends of gas, much less all the different brands of gas.