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10-30-2004, 10:12 AM
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Follow Up Post - "Found '71 911T Thread"
In short? I lost it 
It was my girl friend's nephew who called me at 10 am on Thursday to tell me he'd just found this old 911he was sure I'd be interested in (he and I talk cars and specifically Porsches all the time). I looked at/drove the car Thursday night just before the shop closed, posted to you guys for advice "ASAP". The nephew drops by late Thursday night and we talk about the car. I tell him all the advice I got here. At this point I am thinking I will cut my losses fast and sell him my 944 as he had asked me last Saturday night at a family party what I wanted for it? I told him I'd reluctantly take $5,000 as I wanted to find a 911.
I went yesterday on my lunch hour and got the shop to put the car on the lift and thoroughly checked it for rust/damage. Told the shop I'd be back before they closed at 5pm. I am running 15 minutes late so I call the shop to ask if they will be open when I get there or are open today...Saturday? The shop tells me "my" nephew is coming to get the car today at !0:30!!!!!
HE FRIGGIN SWOOPED IN AND MADE A DEAL FOR THE CAR HE TURNED ME ONTO AND WHICH I"D DISCUSSED WITH HIM!!!
Hell, I did the leg work, he's never posted to Rennlist. He was telling me on Thursday night if he would buy "that car" he do a color change to silver or something. On an original owner early 911 with 47,000 miles!!!!! He's got no appreciation for the unique-ness of an earl 911. He will likely do a relatively cheap paint job, I was long term planning a bare metal paint job, big dollars, but I've been waitng for a '71 since, well...'71!!!
I can't believeit! I agonized over buying this car for myself as many of you know and I got jobbed on it. Sure, whoever gets there first with the cash ought to get it. But I feel he ought to have called me and told me he was going to make an offer..hell, we're extended family and he'd already made a solid offer for MY 944!!
I am temped to get to the shop 30 minutes early with $500 extra and make the deal before he can, but I've got to keep peace in the family. Crap, I had already scoped out the carpet kit, door panels and was getting set to search for original low back seats for it. I am SO dissapointed.
P.S. Andthe worst part? Every time I pull up to a family get together I will see MY '71 911T in some freakin nasty cheapo silver paint job, unwashed, Fucs all nasty and unrestored, etc........
It was my girl friend's nephew who called me at 10 am on Thursday to tell me he'd just found this old 911he was sure I'd be interested in (he and I talk cars and specifically Porsches all the time). I looked at/drove the car Thursday night just before the shop closed, posted to you guys for advice "ASAP". The nephew drops by late Thursday night and we talk about the car. I tell him all the advice I got here. At this point I am thinking I will cut my losses fast and sell him my 944 as he had asked me last Saturday night at a family party what I wanted for it? I told him I'd reluctantly take $5,000 as I wanted to find a 911.
I went yesterday on my lunch hour and got the shop to put the car on the lift and thoroughly checked it for rust/damage. Told the shop I'd be back before they closed at 5pm. I am running 15 minutes late so I call the shop to ask if they will be open when I get there or are open today...Saturday? The shop tells me "my" nephew is coming to get the car today at !0:30!!!!!
HE FRIGGIN SWOOPED IN AND MADE A DEAL FOR THE CAR HE TURNED ME ONTO AND WHICH I"D DISCUSSED WITH HIM!!!
Hell, I did the leg work, he's never posted to Rennlist. He was telling me on Thursday night if he would buy "that car" he do a color change to silver or something. On an original owner early 911 with 47,000 miles!!!!!
He's got no appreciation for the unique-ness of an earl 911. He will likely do a relatively cheap paint job, I was long term planning a bare metal paint job, big dollars, but I've been waitng for a '71 since, well...'71!!!I can't believeit! I agonized over buying this car for myself as many of you know and I got jobbed on it. Sure, whoever gets there first with the cash ought to get it. But I feel he ought to have called me and told me he was going to make an offer..hell, we're extended family and he'd already made a solid offer for MY 944!!
I am temped to get to the shop 30 minutes early with $500 extra and make the deal before he can, but I've got to keep peace in the family. Crap, I had already scoped out the carpet kit, door panels and was getting set to search for original low back seats for it. I am SO dissapointed.
P.S. Andthe worst part? Every time I pull up to a family get together I will see MY '71 911T in some freakin nasty cheapo silver paint job, unwashed, Fucs all nasty and unrestored, etc........
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10-30-2004, 03:09 PM
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How about these two?
71 911T- 3.0 SC engine, 5 speed, runs & drives excellent! $11,000 OBO
In Riverside, CA. (951) 236-0442
71 911T- 2.2, Excellent Condition, Green, 87,000 miles. (502) 292-2188
71 911T- 3.0 SC engine, 5 speed, runs & drives excellent! $11,000 OBO
In Riverside, CA. (951) 236-0442
71 911T- 2.2, Excellent Condition, Green, 87,000 miles. (502) 292-2188
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Cyrus, Thanks for the info, currently licking my wounds.
I called him at about 11:00 to see if he was stopping by with the car (the shop where WE were going to buy it is nearer my house than his). He was already home.
But get this:
He tells me, "the engine races way up at idle and in between shifts, I'm going to have to get used to it".
I tell him, "This car has a hand throttle, you know what that is, right?"
Response, "Uh no, what is it?" (Holy &*&*% Batman!)
I say, "This car is carbeurated your old one (78 SC) was fuel injected, your old one was the third iteration of engine after the one in this one. Yours was a 3.0, this one is 2.2, the 2.4 and the 2.7 came in between. No 911's came with chokes."
"What's a choke?" (At this time I want to kill something)
I explain what a choke is and how I doubt he's going to be happy with this car, he asks why. (I know he's thinking it is just sour grapes on my part...partly it is, but truthfully, he won't be happy long term, maybe not short term either). I explain "...this car is has 25-30HP LESS than my 944, about 55HP less than what you had in your '78. You can't just jump in and go, you've got to use the hand throttle, let it warm up, it has no AC, it has a 901 trans" ("What's that?")
In short, he wants a regular driver. Not a daily driver exactly, but certainly not a true classic that a '71 is. I really do think he won't be happy but by then he will have put a less-than-it-ought-to-have color change paint job on it and maybe over rev'd the hell out of it trying to make it be what it is not. I'm sure he'll offer it to me when he decides he doesn't want it, but I'm not sure I'll want it then. I guess we'll see.
I called him at about 11:00 to see if he was stopping by with the car (the shop where WE were going to buy it is nearer my house than his). He was already home.
But get this:
He tells me, "the engine races way up at idle and in between shifts, I'm going to have to get used to it".
I tell him, "This car has a hand throttle, you know what that is, right?"
Response, "Uh no, what is it?" (Holy &*&*% Batman!)
I say, "This car is carbeurated your old one (78 SC) was fuel injected, your old one was the third iteration of engine after the one in this one. Yours was a 3.0, this one is 2.2, the 2.4 and the 2.7 came in between. No 911's came with chokes."
"What's a choke?" (At this time I want to kill something)
I explain what a choke is and how I doubt he's going to be happy with this car, he asks why. (I know he's thinking it is just sour grapes on my part...partly it is, but truthfully, he won't be happy long term, maybe not short term either). I explain "...this car is has 25-30HP LESS than my 944, about 55HP less than what you had in your '78. You can't just jump in and go, you've got to use the hand throttle, let it warm up, it has no AC, it has a 901 trans" ("What's that?")
In short, he wants a regular driver. Not a daily driver exactly, but certainly not a true classic that a '71 is. I really do think he won't be happy but by then he will have put a less-than-it-ought-to-have color change paint job on it and maybe over rev'd the hell out of it trying to make it be what it is not. I'm sure he'll offer it to me when he decides he doesn't want it, but I'm not sure I'll want it then. I guess we'll see.
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i bet you will be trading him the 944 for the 911 in about a week. what you need to do is let him drive the 944. he will realize it is more what he is looking for and want to trade you. you will be the knight in shining armor and take the 911 off his hands for a song.
that is unless they bought the car for you as a surprise!
that is unless they bought the car for you as a surprise!
10-31-2004, 06:11 AM
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I am temped to get to the shop 30 minutes early with $500 extra and make the deal before he can, but I've got to keep peace in the family.
Apparently he isn't too concerned about keeping peace in the family, so why should you be? At this point, all bets are off. I realize that I am jumping in a bit late (since the car is already gone), but the next time he does something like this to you (and he will), I would give him back some of his own medicine.
Just my two cents. There is a reason why I don't speak to 1/2 of my family anymore (the one on my mother's side, including my mother). Family members, when they treat you worse than your enemies, don't deserve to be treated as friends.
I hope the punk loses it in a corner when he lifts off the throttle and ends up backwards in a ditch, and has to call you for help, and you hang up on him.