991 turbo versus 930
08-02-2014, 02:43 PM
#166
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Every 911, ever produced, where the engine was force fed air by at least one exhaust gas driven compressor, is, and forever shall be known as, a 911 turbo.
No one, in this discussion, has said any different.
From the beginning:
'74-'89 911 turbo: Typ 930
'91-'94 911 turbo: Typ 965
'96-'97 911 turbo: Typ 993
'01-'05 911 turbo: Typ 996
'07-'12 911 turbo: Typ 997
He does have a 930, and no, Rey has never said he does not have a 911 turbo.
But, at your next cars and coffee, it would be an entertaining proposition for you to walk up to the guy with a factory, 477hp, RWD, '04 996 GT2, and ask him if he correctly refers to his steed, in all circumstances, as a 2004 911 turbo.
No. I believe the continuous nauseating rhetoric has been all yours. Now, "Don't go away mad...just, go away".
No one, in this discussion, has said any different.
From the beginning:
'74-'89 911 turbo: Typ 930
'91-'94 911 turbo: Typ 965
'96-'97 911 turbo: Typ 993
'01-'05 911 turbo: Typ 996
'07-'12 911 turbo: Typ 997
He does have a 930, and no, Rey has never said he does not have a 911 turbo.
But, at your next cars and coffee, it would be an entertaining proposition for you to walk up to the guy with a factory, 477hp, RWD, '04 996 GT2, and ask him if he correctly refers to his steed, in all circumstances, as a 2004 911 turbo.
No. I believe the continuous nauseating rhetoric has been all yours. Now, "Don't go away mad...just, go away".
08-02-2014, 03:06 PM
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We stop 911 Turbo cars for speed. We do not write unless we get attitude. If you are on the Massachusetts Turnpike give us a wave. 
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08-02-2014, 03:55 PM
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Admit to what? Go back to any of my post and point out where i denied having a 911 Turbo, from the onset all i said from my very first post is that 911 Turbo and/or 930 is correct. The response was for the op. Why is it so hard for you to grasp that? Seriously let it go and move on...
08-02-2014, 04:08 PM
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Here--->
1986 930 "the mistress"
I have never checked a registrationon on a stop that said "and/or "
In fact I have stopped many a 911 Turbo and not a one has said 930. You have a 911 Turbo. Get over that 930 insistence.
Yes, you can call it a 930 but what is it? A 911 Turbo
1986 930 "the mistress"
I have never checked a registrationon on a stop that said "and/or "
In fact I have stopped many a 911 Turbo and not a one has said 930. You have a 911 Turbo. Get over that 930 insistence.
Yes, you can call it a 930 but what is it? A 911 Turbo
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08-02-2014, 06:48 PM
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Here--->
1986 930 "the mistress"
I have never checked a registrationon on a stop that said "and/or "
In fact I have stopped many a 911 Turbo and not a one has said 930. You have a 911 Turbo. Get over that 930 insistence.
Yes, you can call it a 930 but what is it? A 911 Turbo
1986 930 "the mistress"
I have never checked a registrationon on a stop that said "and/or "
In fact I have stopped many a 911 Turbo and not a one has said 930. You have a 911 Turbo. Get over that 930 insistence.
Yes, you can call it a 930 but what is it? A 911 Turbo
08-02-2014, 06:59 PM
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Thank you.
<BTW vulgarities are the mark of a small mind.>
Yes you can call it ole yellow eyes but try and register and title it as that. I have said numerous times that you can Call it anything that suits you but that does not make it so.
Call it what you want, speedy, but it is still a 911 Turbo.
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08-02-2014, 07:09 PM
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08-04-2014, 07:36 AM
#178
Sandwich... finger food of the 4th Earl, or a town in Massachusetts
Hogie, Hoagie.... a Hog Island sandwich
Sub.... when she goes down.
This is quite a comical thread, beats the AC threads for sure.
So, what do you call a normally aspirated 911 that has an aftermarket turbo attached.... A ninevestite ?
Hogie, Hoagie.... a Hog Island sandwich
Sub.... when she goes down.
This is quite a comical thread, beats the AC threads for sure.
So, what do you call a normally aspirated 911 that has an aftermarket turbo attached.... A ninevestite ?
08-04-2014, 12:21 PM
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08-09-2014, 06:12 PM
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I did not read this entire thread it digressed too quickly.
Not claiming to be the definitive answer but being around these cars since 1977 this is what i distinctly remember. I spent a lot of time drooling over the new Porsche's back at Herman and Miller now Paul Miller Porsche. I was always attracted to the widebody cars and seeing my first 3.0 L 911 turbo seemed like just yesterday. We never discussed 930 at the time it was either a 911 turbo or Turbo Carrera. When the 3,3 L was introduced it was all the rage and the car was impressive compared to anything else on the market. I called it a 930 and IIRC it was Paul Miller himself that corrected me and said it was a 911 turbo not a 930. Although the term caught on and became accepted it was always called a 911 turbo since types were not yet invented.
Fast forward to 1984 I started heading to Europe to buy grey market cars. I land in Switzerland and start shopping for 930's. I got nothing but ????. It would appear that 930 was more a US slang for these cars than there. So I shopped for 911 turbos and turbo carreras's. Helped purchase a handful and only one owner marketed his car as a 930 and that was because his car had been upgraded with factory parts from a 934, Hydraulic clutch and other features not currently available for that year.
Fast forward to Turbo S days and the slope nose cars. Now I recall the salespeople calling them 930S's or turbo S's, Suddenly the "930" was recognized as a proper name for only the turbo S since it was a tribute to the 935 and marketing 930 helped. Although it was still a turbo S or 930 S.
As far as types there is no type 965 the 964 turbo is a 964 turbo and it is called a 965 by many but has no official designation since the 965 was technically a variant of the 911 that never came to be and was based more on the 959. We all are accustomed to calling it a 965, 965 turbo but in reality it is a 964 Turbo even though the majority of parts begin with 965 part numbers..
And yes a 991, 997, 996 993 or 964 if turbocharged are all 911 turbos unless it is a GT2.
That is just my $.02 worth
Not claiming to be the definitive answer but being around these cars since 1977 this is what i distinctly remember. I spent a lot of time drooling over the new Porsche's back at Herman and Miller now Paul Miller Porsche. I was always attracted to the widebody cars and seeing my first 3.0 L 911 turbo seemed like just yesterday. We never discussed 930 at the time it was either a 911 turbo or Turbo Carrera. When the 3,3 L was introduced it was all the rage and the car was impressive compared to anything else on the market. I called it a 930 and IIRC it was Paul Miller himself that corrected me and said it was a 911 turbo not a 930. Although the term caught on and became accepted it was always called a 911 turbo since types were not yet invented.
Fast forward to 1984 I started heading to Europe to buy grey market cars. I land in Switzerland and start shopping for 930's. I got nothing but ????. It would appear that 930 was more a US slang for these cars than there. So I shopped for 911 turbos and turbo carreras's. Helped purchase a handful and only one owner marketed his car as a 930 and that was because his car had been upgraded with factory parts from a 934, Hydraulic clutch and other features not currently available for that year.
Fast forward to Turbo S days and the slope nose cars. Now I recall the salespeople calling them 930S's or turbo S's, Suddenly the "930" was recognized as a proper name for only the turbo S since it was a tribute to the 935 and marketing 930 helped. Although it was still a turbo S or 930 S.
As far as types there is no type 965 the 964 turbo is a 964 turbo and it is called a 965 by many but has no official designation since the 965 was technically a variant of the 911 that never came to be and was based more on the 959. We all are accustomed to calling it a 965, 965 turbo but in reality it is a 964 Turbo even though the majority of parts begin with 965 part numbers..
And yes a 991, 997, 996 993 or 964 if turbocharged are all 911 turbos unless it is a GT2.
That is just my $.02 worth