How do you identify real Fuch's?
#1
Burning Brakes
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How do you identify real Fuch's?
Later Porsche wheels have the width and offset stamped on them on each side of the valve stem. Do Fuch's have any markings on the exposed side? I think I read there are part numbers stamped on them on the inside but I can't see that side yet.
#2
When you do see the inside, if the're genuine, you'll see a little engraved head of a fuchs, say like in "books", which is German for fox. Thus, one wheel is one Fuchs brand wheel, or one Fuchs ( not like in English, where you have one fox, several foxes).
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#3
yes either that or a P in a triangle, not sure what years apply to which
also, a fake will be heavier for the width and dia. than a true Fuchs - the real ones are forged and few wheels are.
also, a fake will be heavier for the width and dia. than a true Fuchs - the real ones are forged and few wheels are.
#4
FORGING OF A FUCHS
I probabably got this off this forum or Pelican's. Thought you might find it interesting. A genuine Fuchs is forged, not cast and is stronger & lighter than any cast wheel, including the latest pressure casting techniques.
The old photo makes it pretty obvious why a forged wheel is more expensive. All the repro Fuchs wheels are cast, and indeed heavier.
It's my understanding that a forged wheel will bend rather than a piece break off, which could determine the downside up or rightside down final attitude of a car that slides into a curb at speed.
From what I gather, the Fuchs is as good or better wheel than any currently manufactured wheel.
I'm a Newbie and was lucky to learn that replacing the cookies on the SC I bought w/just any wheel I thought looked "cool" was not the right way to go,
purist (which I'm not, strictly) or not - I knew about unsprung weight when I bought my car and that along w/the quality of the Fuchs made it a no brainer for me.
I bought my 16s that were refinished by the PO, not to the Fuchs spec.s, but they were all I could find at the time.
The old photo makes it pretty obvious why a forged wheel is more expensive. All the repro Fuchs wheels are cast, and indeed heavier.
It's my understanding that a forged wheel will bend rather than a piece break off, which could determine the downside up or rightside down final attitude of a car that slides into a curb at speed.
From what I gather, the Fuchs is as good or better wheel than any currently manufactured wheel.
I'm a Newbie and was lucky to learn that replacing the cookies on the SC I bought w/just any wheel I thought looked "cool" was not the right way to go,
purist (which I'm not, strictly) or not - I knew about unsprung weight when I bought my car and that along w/the quality of the Fuchs made it a no brainer for me.
I bought my 16s that were refinished by the PO, not to the Fuchs spec.s, but they were all I could find at the time.
#5
Poseur
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There is no tell-tail sign from the outside if it's truly a Fuchs alloy. But yuo can generally tell by teh quality of the finish,--even when they are getting old. The Fuchs alloy wheel will never show anything like pinholes from a cheaper casting job around the edges of the windmills. Once you get them off you can sort them out by looking for several clues--the part number, the Porsche Part logo, and a small drill mark they used to to determine strength and alloy composition during the manufacture.
I have been told that today's sophisticated pressure cast wheels (BBS is today's supplier) are equal in performance to the Fuchs forged rims,--although I can't say for sure myself. I have always been a big fan of the Fuchs wheel,--and am still holding on to a set of 7 & 8 x 16s for SOMETHING!
My single 6x15 early offset serves me daily as a hose reel!
Dan
I have been told that today's sophisticated pressure cast wheels (BBS is today's supplier) are equal in performance to the Fuchs forged rims,--although I can't say for sure myself. I have always been a big fan of the Fuchs wheel,--and am still holding on to a set of 7 & 8 x 16s for SOMETHING!
My single 6x15 early offset serves me daily as a hose reel!
Dan
#7
spreken ze?
'Fuchs' like 'books'?
I had read that it is 'Fuchs' like 'fyooks'....more of an 'ew' sound.
But '*****' for fox makes more sense.
Now, is it 'Ruf' like 'roof'? Or 'Ruf' like 'rough'.
I had read that it is 'Fuchs' like 'fyooks'....more of an 'ew' sound.
But '*****' for fox makes more sense.
Now, is it 'Ruf' like 'roof'? Or 'Ruf' like 'rough'.
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#8
Ruf like R....U....F is what i was told. but i could be wrong.
also how much more do knock off fuchs weigh and are they still good to use for track wheels even thought they arent as strong. they are just so cheep so i wanted to buy some for track wheels, but would it be worth it??
also how much more do knock off fuchs weigh and are they still good to use for track wheels even thought they arent as strong. they are just so cheep so i wanted to buy some for track wheels, but would it be worth it??
#11
"today's sophisticated pressure cast wheels"
The top wheels today are probably on F50's and C-GTs. The latter has Mg wheels, and I think they are forged. CF wheels have also been tried...
I hear there are new Mg alloys out now that do not corrode like the old ones. My guess is that the C-GT wheels would use such newere alloys but I have no specific info on them...
The top wheels today are probably on F50's and C-GTs. The latter has Mg wheels, and I think they are forged. CF wheels have also been tried...
I hear there are new Mg alloys out now that do not corrode like the old ones. My guess is that the C-GT wheels would use such newere alloys but I have no specific info on them...