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Old 03-30-2024, 05:16 AM
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Wow sorry to hear this is the case, my GT3T already makes me a bit car sick…now I’m worried about the SRS..🤢
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Originally Posted by KelvinC
Some say 1 out of every 4 GT4 RS’ try to kill their owners. Something about “it’s the car that picks the driver” or something like that.

Best of luck with your suspension issues fellas.

If you’re super frustrated with it, you might consider selling it and getting a GT3 if you still want a GT car. It’s an easier car to drive quickly.
i have a 992 GT3 T...

Guys , for the SRS nothing to worry about, its a sexy lolita trying to kill you time to time but nothin too serious, CGT can do worse and imperfections on these limited cars is personality

just be aware when suddenly on a change of inclination ,

On track its another story , if i had a 4RS it was for sure at racing shop for a new set of suspension

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Old 03-30-2024, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fxz
i have a 992 GT3 T...

Guys , for the SRS nothing to worry about, its a sexy adrenalinic lolita trying to kill you time to time but nothin serious until you re awake or on german flat roads ,

if i had a 4RS it was for sure at racing prep throwing a new set of suspension
Not sure I understand your last statement—are you suggesting that for proper track use, one needs to change the entire suspension set? Are your tracks particularly rough and bumpy? That sounds horrible if that’s the case.

I seem to do just fine with the stock suspension—on public roads and more importantly, on my local tracks—curbs and all. Of course with a proper alignment and some toe links for additional rear camber. I will say that this RS is my fourth Cayman, so maybe I’ve gotten used to its dynamic character and limitations, and have learned to work with it. It’s rewarding that way.

For those that primarily use their car on the street, and have to deal with bumpy, uneven pavement all the time, I understand that everyone’s comfort level with what feels safe and fast is highly personal. I’m all for modding the car to suit one’s tastes, especially as no car can be all things to all people.

But to claim that the GT4 RS needs an entirely different suspension setup to perform well on track is just false.

I do think that aftermarket suspension options, like MCS and KW can improve performance for both street and track. But unless your track is particularly horrible, surface-wise, I don’t find it an essential upgrade to put in fast lap times. I’d rather invest the $$$ in more track time, tires, brakes, and insurance.

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Old 03-30-2024, 10:58 AM
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@KelvinC Great comment. Little do they realize the 4RS is faster around the track then the 992 GT3. Not by my test but by Car and Driver.

Facts they simply want to ignore just to bash a Cayman because it isn't a 911 or they don't actually know how to drive a fast car fast.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/


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Old 03-30-2024, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fxz
Spyder RS , PCCB i need a Road setup,

GT4 RS on track was not less in lacking precision, but could (Spyder RS only...) take it as an "old school" nasty personality and keep it as it is ,

just wondering if something let you set the rebound, maybe just an OEM fine tuning,

are compression/rebound mechanical settings allowed on the 718?
Regarding the bolded, then you should consider the DSC controller...

are compression/rebound mechanical settings allowed on the 718?
Not sure what you are asking here, spring rates? The OEM springs are what they are, dialing in the damping would really help for the road.
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Old 03-30-2024, 11:29 AM
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This is an interesting discussion.

I am wondering if anyone expects similar behavior on the part of 718 Spyder RS, even with its more relaxed suspension setup.
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
This is an interesting discussion.

I am wondering if anyone expects similar behavior on the part of 718 Spyder RS, even with its more relaxed suspension setup.
Interesting enough to read post #14?
Old 03-30-2024, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
Interesting enough to read post #14?
Ha missed it. Thought the whole discussion was about GT4 RS.

Wondering if others expect or o have observed Spyder RS to tend towards this behavior or if it has been somewhat of a spurious account.
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
Ha missed it. Thought the whole discussion was about GT4 RS.

Wondering if others expect or o have observed Spyder RS to tend towards this behavior or if it has been somewhat of a spurious account.
We would need more feedback from SRS owners to weigh in on this, my bet is the SRS would benefit from the DSC controller just like the 718 Spyder does.
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
We would need more feedback from SRS owners to weigh in on this, my bet is the SRS would benefit from the DSC controller just like the 718 Spyder does.
I test drove three 718s Spyder and I thought the stability around sharp turns (on street roads) was very odd and unbecoming. Was this phenomenon in general at play there, causing me to conclude this, do you think? There have been posts here that 718 Spyder/GT4 also exhibit similar characteristics.
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This is not a new conversation, same characteristics on the non RS GT cars that’s been discussed here.

I assume slightly amplified on the RS cars.
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Old 03-30-2024, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dnimi123
Not nearly as much with coilovers and a proper alignment.... and yes this is exaggerated in the 4RS. The DSC is a band aide approach (ive tried it) and doesnt go far enough to help the car. Im still considering the 4RS but would immediately put in coilovers if I pull the trigger on one... whats another $9,000 for better compliance and feel and handling...
FYI, the OEM suspension *are* (already a) coilover design.

there are a few variables you can play with:
- spring rates
- shock valving (to "match" the chosen spring rate)
- low speed compression
- high speed compression
- low speed rebound
- high speed rebound

both PASM and DSC dynamically adjust the compression and rebound.

with any (adjustable) suspension technology (DSC or not) the practitioner must be experienced in chosing the appropriate springs and damping, and then be able to
further tune that setup via the adjustment of the high/low compression & rebound ...

this is not plug and play and requires a skillset only acquired either on the track or at a suspension/vehicle manufacturer...

generally low speed is for tuning in corners, high speed is for tuning "bumps"...

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https://www.chasingcars.com.au/revie...s-2024-review/

"This hot Cayman is no blunt instrument. The inside of some corners are seriously bumpy and chopped, yet when the GT4 RS hits them it just brushes them aside. Instead of unsettling it before spinning and spearing you off into oblivion, the Porsche’s stability and traction remind it’s the truly talented one in the car/driver pairing."

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Originally Posted by 168glhs1986
@KelvinC Great comment. Little do they realize the 4RS is faster around the track then the 992 GT3. Not by my test but by Car and Driver.

Facts they simply want to ignore just to bash a Cayman because it isn't a 911 or they don't actually know how to drive a fast car fast.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/
not on the 'Ring it isn't.
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
I test drove three 718s Spyder and I thought the stability around sharp turns (on street roads) was very odd and unbecoming. Was this phenomenon in general at play there, causing me to conclude this, do you think? There have been posts here that 718 Spyder/GT4 also exhibit similar characteristics.
yes.


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