How to fix the 718 RS wheels bouncing?
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Does anyone know the wheel weights for the OEM wheels? I know the aluminum ones are forged, so I would assume they are lighter than the standard 718 GT4/Spyder wheels. And then the mag wheels even lighter still. But I can't seem to find the weight listed anywhere.
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Front: 20x8.5 et 61
Rear: 20.11 et 50
Front: 20.5 lbs
Rear: 23.75 lbs
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Thanks. Seems that it would be hard to get significant weight savings with aftermarket forged aluminum vs. the OEM aluminum. Magnesium or other lightweight material would be needed.
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Larry Cable (03-30-2024)
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Front 19.9 lbs
Rear 21.8 lbs
Last edited by Westcoast; 03-30-2024 at 07:39 PM. Reason: add offsets
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Decided if going mag, just go aftermarket. More design and color choices. Not quite as expensive as OEM and you get to keep the base forged al wheels.
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20x9 and 52
20x11 and 50
Brushed Clear GT4rs
Rears: 22.38lbs and 22.16lbs
Fronts: 20.18lbs and 20.28lbs
https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...l#post19149810
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Mine weighed a bit more.
20x9 and 52
20x11 and 50
Brushed Clear GT4rs
Rears: 22.38lbs and 22.16lbs
Fronts: 20.18lbs and 20.28lbs
https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...l#post19149810
20x9 and 52
20x11 and 50
Brushed Clear GT4rs
Rears: 22.38lbs and 22.16lbs
Fronts: 20.18lbs and 20.28lbs
https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...l#post19149810
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Larry Cable (03-30-2024)
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Important to keep in mind with the wheel weights that the GT4RS and Spyder RS wheels are lighter than the regular wheels. The 4RS/SRS aluminum wheels weigh 20.46 fronts and 23.70 in the rears. This is a total of 88.3 pounds which is 10lbs lighter than the GT4/Spyder wheels which weigh a total of 98.2 pounds.
So before spending money out of pocket it is important to remember that 4RS/SRS wheels are actually quite light for an OEM wheel.
So before spending money out of pocket it is important to remember that 4RS/SRS wheels are actually quite light for an OEM wheel.
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fxz (03-31-2024)
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I suspect that Porsche spend a lot of time on GT suspension, but there are limits to what technology can do, when cost is also an issue.
no surprise that Manthey went to a 4 way KW in their 4RS kit.
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dnimi123 (03-30-2024)
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FYI, the OEM suspension *are* (already a) coilover design.
there are a few variables you can play with:
- spring rates
- shock valving (to "match" the chosen spring rate)
- low speed compression
- high speed compression
- low speed rebound
- high speed rebound
both PASM and DSC dynamically adjust the compression and rebound.
with any (adjustable) suspension technology (DSC or not) the practitioner must be experienced in chosing the appropriate springs and damping, and then be able to
further tune that setup via the adjustment of the high/low compression & rebound ...
this is not plug and play and requires a skillset only acquired either on the track or at a suspension/vehicle manufacturer...
generally low speed is for tuning in corners, high speed is for tuning "bumps"...
there are a few variables you can play with:
- spring rates
- shock valving (to "match" the chosen spring rate)
- low speed compression
- high speed compression
- low speed rebound
- high speed rebound
both PASM and DSC dynamically adjust the compression and rebound.
with any (adjustable) suspension technology (DSC or not) the practitioner must be experienced in chosing the appropriate springs and damping, and then be able to
further tune that setup via the adjustment of the high/low compression & rebound ...
this is not plug and play and requires a skillset only acquired either on the track or at a suspension/vehicle manufacturer...
generally low speed is for tuning in corners, high speed is for tuning "bumps"...
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Important to keep in mind with the wheel weights that the GT4RS and Spyder RS wheels are lighter than the regular wheels. The 4RS/SRS aluminum wheels weigh 20.46 fronts and 23.70 in the rears. This is a total of 88.3 pounds which is 10lbs lighter than the GT4/Spyder wheels which weigh a total of 98.2 pounds.
So before spending money out of pocket it is important to remember that 4RS/SRS wheels are actually quite light for an OEM wheel.
So before spending money out of pocket it is important to remember that 4RS/SRS wheels are actually quite light for an OEM wheel.
There is no FF10 fitment in CL for the 4RS/SRS these are 5-lug.
I would agree with @Drifting to say that you would have to go with Magnesium OEM or aftermarket to significantly beat out the OEM aluminum wheels on the 4RS/SRS.
Last edited by Westcoast; 03-30-2024 at 09:27 PM.
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Think K+ referencing his RS wheel, so would assume there to be small differences in the same design but accounting for different mounts
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Before spending in expensive wheels think (if you ever played volley or soccer) that a lighter ball bounce more...and OEM wheels are not heavy
actually 21" GT3 rear wheels are heavier,
i guess its all about hi/lo speed rebound settings
Question for experts is how a strut can be stressed (if any stress) by a 3/4 ways suspension , before cracking alà 991 RS....
maybe in this light a mag wheel real benefit is to let us play more with a strut suspension settings?
actually 21" GT3 rear wheels are heavier,
i guess its all about hi/lo speed rebound settings
Question for experts is how a strut can be stressed (if any stress) by a 3/4 ways suspension , before cracking alà 991 RS....
maybe in this light a mag wheel real benefit is to let us play more with a strut suspension settings?
Last edited by fxz; 03-31-2024 at 02:05 AM.