greatfox315

I sure hope this guy is wrong. His premise is that Porsche has to “abandon” its core customer base of “driving enthusiasts” in order to succeed. If they do that, I won’t be interested in their cars. There are ways to build an exciting and engaging electric sports car which don’t involve catering to the mass market. The minute they do that, they will have gone the way of BMW.

clutchplate

I'll miss the $1,300 oil changes but if they make a car that's fun I'm willing to test drive one. Holding back judgement until then.

Westcoast

i think the premise is spot on, especially for the model segment in question, namely the 718 series. This series was never the biggest seller and was always positioned to bring in new buyers at this level. With the age demographics changing the 718EV makes perfect sense, it is what the EV market doesn’t have right now, an electric sports car... they will sell and I think better than the ICE versions they replace.

The prospective 718ICE buyers will be able to pick up a used car or move up to the 911 family for a new one, they are not exactly abandoned!

The 718EV could be the daily driver that I am looking for!

Zeus993

Yes, and on that note, I did have used of a Taycan S for 72 hours and romped it hard up into the local hills. WHOA. I had a blast.

skafia

How long do these batteries last without a significant amount of degradation? What would the cost be to replace the batteries after 10 years?

ipse dixit

The federal government requires manufacturers to offer an eight-year/100,000-mile warranty on all EV batteries. California does one better, mandating a warranty of 10 years or 150,000 miles.

EVs lose 5-10% of their battery life in the first five years of ownership.

Cyclman

Betcha ADM on the 983 won’t be a common complaint.

absame

I’m going to be a contrarian and say I believe the EV cayman will be amazing. I’ve been driving Porsches for 25 years and we’re a group that doesn’t like change.



People complained about the death of the brand in 1995 when they redid the 911 suspension geometry to dial out the crazy, and in 1999 when the 911 went water cooled. And in 2012 when the 991 came out with its then radical design and again in 2017 when the 911 went all turbo. And remember when a true Porsche lover would never get anything but a manual?!?



The lower center of gravity and torque possibilities of an EV platform give Porsche a lot to work with. I’m guessing that the future GT4/GT4RS EV will blow the doors off what’s available now. It will take some figuring out, especially rapid charging for track days, but it’s just another evolutionary change. Look what they did with the Taycan vs the Tesla. Different ballpark.



Time will tell.

38D

Totally agree. When was the last “bad” car Porsche even made? Even the 914s or 924s were pretty cool in their day.

Fast-Eddie

I'll go through about 10 gallons of fuel in a 30 minute session on track. I can "re-charge" my GT4 in 2 minutes even at a meager fill rate of 5 gal/minute. I seriously doubt an EV will ever achieve a "full-charge" in 2 minutes.

I don't see an EV as a serious sports car, defined as speed + endurance (i.e. 24 Hours of LeMans). But that is my definition/requirement; others will have different criteria.

absame

how did your GT4 do for 24 hours at LeMans, and what DE track are you going to where you have 2 minutes between runs?

as I said about Porsche owners ….

Zhao

The 992. 200k where I am for a 992 S is a bad car when a similar spec 991.2 was 120k. Poor quality interior, and it's not a sports car. Arguably the 991.1 was worse than 997.2 also as a sports car.
The 996 was a bad car too relative to what came before and after it, albeit in different ways. It was too soft and wet (literally lol) compared to a 993, and it was a total POS on materials quality and looks compared to a 997.
The first gen cayenne is terrible.
The 924 can be argued was a bad car also for the badge, which is why it evolved into the 944.
I don't think 914s were ever cool. Before my time but I remember them beign a joke in the 80s and 90s.

I think the proof of that is in resale too. 924s, 914s, 996s, etc were all basically terrible for resale. Even a 944 was possible to buy for next to nothing.

When a car is 6 figures obviously it's not going to be Yugo bad, but it can still be bad, relatively.

RedCarrot

The 986 2.5 and 2.7 were no gem right out of the gate either. It took a few years if not a generation to mature to large scale acceptance. I think the '25 718EV will be pretty darn good esp IF Porsche won't sandbag its performance to appease the 911. But I also anticipate there will be a big leap - particularly in weight reduction - in just 3-4 years that I won't rush to be one of the early adopters. I will just have to rough it with my ICE 3.4/4.0 until that day comes. I get the sense many on here are doing the same. We are not saying no to 718EV; just no to 718EV in 2025.

MaddMike

I built a well-spec 992 GT3 Touring for a little over $200k. How are you getting a 992s to $200k?

Westcoast

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