Originally Posted by Manifold

Today, I drove my three mid-engine cars back to back, in this order: manual Cayman R (4S tires), 4RS (Dunlop tires), and McLaren 570 (4S tires).

I enjoyed the Cayman R and 4RS roughly equally. I wasn't in the mood for manual today, so that gave the 4RS an edge, though I don't like the amount of jolt when using the paddles in the 4RS. Cayman R is easier to move around and feels lighter, 4RS has a lot more grip and feels more locked down. 4RS is too loud when on it, volume needs to be turned down 20%.

I enjoyed the 570 MUCH more than the two Porsches. It's in a different league. Much better suspension and ride quality, feels more mid-engine and tossable, better shifting than the 4RS, sounds better to me than the other two, and much stronger acceleration. Most telepathic car I've ever driven.

Originally Posted by jabwind51

Care to mention your alignment settings? I was planning on getting a track alignment before I picked up the car. I didn’t like to stock alignment on the track and felt it needed a more sporty set up. Thanks!

Originally Posted by mrd_spy

I watch Thorney and he puts me off Macca ownership. 570 are super cheap in the UK even the 600LT, but the build still sucks and you need a garage for them, they seem to melt in the rain.
No contest vs an F8 if I was wanting this sort of car.

Originally Posted by jabwind51

Care to mention your alignment settings? I was planning on getting a track alignment before I picked up the car. I didn’t like to stock alignment on the track and felt it needed a more sporty set up. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Taffy66

Yeah as mr d spy correctly said my 4RS has front Porsche Motorsport camber plates as well as a couple of shims. I also have String Theory Garage rear toe arm links.
Going off memory front camber is about -3.2 and rear-2.5 . Front toe is 1mm out each side and rear I think -3.5mm toe in. The rear toe was initially -4.5mm but I took 1mm out to help rotation.
Both ARBs are Middle setting. It has also been lowered by 10mm. Not sure what the rake is as I don’t have the print out with me.
Steel brakes and Mags. Fitted some Pagid RSL 29s as I thought the standard oem ones were crap on track. Max aero settings front and rear.
Next mod will be some aftermarket coilovers or as a cheaper alternative fit some 120Nm springs on the rear and leave the fronts be.

Originally Posted by MannyLon

Where did you source the Porsche Motorsport camber plates from?

Originally Posted by lilbza

No, I said all the criticisms of this car have already been heard. I haven't heard any new negatives about the car is quite some time. New/fresh informative reviews (positive or negative) still interest me, repetitive reviews do not, and it's being echoed by other members, so I'm not sure where you're going with this?

You're cherry picking now. Sure comparisons to those particular GT cars may be relevant with initial impressions, but other cars you continue to include are not, at least for this thread. Go start another thread to ramble on about all your other cars as often as you like, lets keep this one on topic for those who just want to read about the GT4RS, it's really not that hard to comprehend.

Originally Posted by Taffy66

Yeah as mr d spy correctly said my 4RS has front Porsche Motorsport camber plates as well as a couple of shims. I also have String Theory Garage rear toe arm links.
Going off memory front camber is about -3.2 and rear-2.5 . Front toe is 1mm out each side and rear I think -3.5mm toe in. The rear toe was initially -4.5mm but I took 1mm out to help rotation.
Both ARBs are Middle setting. It has also been lowered by 10mm. Not sure what the rake is as I don’t have the print out with me.
Steel brakes and Mags. Fitted some Pagid RSL 29s as I thought the standard oem ones were crap on track. Max aero settings front and rear.
Next mod will be some aftermarket coilovers or as a cheaper alternative fit some 120Nm springs on the rear and leave the fronts be.

Originally Posted by MannyLon

Where did you source the Porsche Motorsport camber plates from?

Originally Posted by 7184RS

You can order them at any Porsche dealer. It took 20 days for me to get the camber plates and toe links in March as they were in back order

Originally Posted by jabwind51

Are these necessary for a track alignment?? Im not as knowledgeable as some regarding alignment and toe specs lol

Originally Posted by MannyLon

Naa, Fezza totally boring since the 458. Depends on your definition of cheap
Melt in the rain, don't be silly.
Have you owned a Mclaren as you're making massive assumptions here.

Originally Posted by jabwind51

Are these necessary for a track alignment?? Im not as knowledgeable as some regarding alignment and toe specs lol

Originally Posted by mrd_spy

know too many owners having issues and Thorney is up front on the costs, I have test drove them twice, but not a car I would buy to keep on a driveway. it's well know they hate rain and like to be kept on a trickle charger.
The pannel gaps are comic, the finishing poor, it's not much better than a Lotus. And I stopped buying them years a go. Modern Ferrari work very well these days with the 488 and F8 and you entre owner ship with a very nice lifestyle feeling.

The only life style you get with a 570 is with the local dealer :-) 675LT was ok the rest, no thanks.