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GT4RS just joined that list. I rank it way above my 911R, which I had gotten rid of. 911R really wasn't anything special, it was just a beta car for Porsche to test out the new 6-speed manual. And that manual is just too good, it takes out all the fun in mastering and driving a manual car. Fool proof. Never miss a gear. What's the fun in that when driving a manual? I might as well drive a PDK.
So picked up the car a week ago and did the 1500 kms in a week to get the "run in" done asap. So now the fun really begins. I can whole-hardheartedly agree with the above statement - this car will be with me until I depart this planet. Its simply mesmerizing. After many Porches as well as others the "bang for the buck" is like no other. I am not sure Porsche actually realized how good a car the 4RS is. IMO it will go down as one of the all time greats. I had the GT4 and thought it would be a bit better. They are not even in the same universe. The difference is that stark. Gents/Ladies once you have driven and experienced this car you will understand why Porsche "held it back" for so long.
Mine is no garage queen (nor should it be) and its had the customary gravel road experience to make sure its well "bedded in".
I know Drew. And I shared that comment, the GT4RS over the 918.
GT4RS isn't best in any one single area, but Porsche somehow made it work with the parts they put on the car. They made it the most exciting car to drive since like forever.
The 'inferior' chassis? Nah, it's what made this car special, it is what made the car come alive, playful. It doesn't try to kill you every corner, but it also doesn't feel like it is being Big Brother watching you over like in a 992 GT3.
While the CGT and the 918 tops it in exhaust notes, there is no peers for the GT4RS for in cabin sound, that intake roar is just glorious. it's not even a single note. The sound changes 'gear' depending on the throttle input and rpm.
It is the first, and the last, GT4RS is just icing on the cake. GT3s? There are 7 generations to choose from. Same with GT3RS. But this will be the one and only GT4RS.
I know Drew. And I shared that comment, the GT4RS over the 918.
GT4RS isn't best in any one single area, but Porsche somehow made it work with the parts they put on the car. They made it the most exciting car to drive since like forever.
The 'inferior' chassis? Nah, it's what made this car special, it is what made the car come alive, playful. It doesn't try to kill you every corner, but it also doesn't feel like it is being Big Brother watching you over like in a 992 GT3.
While the CGT and the 918 tops it in exhaust notes, there is no peers for the GT4RS for in cabin sound, that intake roar is just glorious. it's not even a single note. The sound changes 'gear' depending on the throttle input and rpm.
It is the first, and the last, GT4RS is just icing on the cake. GT3s? There are 7 generations to choose from. Same with GT3RS. But this will be the one and only GT4RS.
agree with your thoughts about the 992 GT3. It is so good at speed, but almost too good, it has taken some of the excitement out of driving the car. I have said before (and always get ridiculous comments back about „not at the limit“, blah blah) that it’s so easy to drive fast that anyone can be quick in that car as it’s so stable and inspires such confidence. That is why I have really struggled with mine over the last 16months, it hasn’t really won me over like my 18 3RS. I am really hoping that this 4RS will bring back some of the excitement I have had with prior Porsches.. suspect it will based upon your and other folks comments.
agree with your thoughts about the 992 GT3. It is so good at speed, but almost too good, it has taken some of the excitement out of driving the car.
I agree on the 992 as well, however one has to be clear about which environment we're talking about. If I was hot lapping them on track the 992 GT3 comes into its own somewhat (although, on the day I did that I actually felt that trying to wrestle the Turbo S around a track was possibly just as rewarding) but I think it's fair to say that the 992.1 is unlikely to become a high water mark for the GT3 range. Still, you have to really, really want the "rawest" car out there to take a 4RS over a 918, but I suspect some of that hyperbole will wear off with time as the 4RS becomes less of a novelty and in any case they're building plenty of them. At trackdays in Europe they're already very well represented and they're not done building them yet.
When I tested the 4RS on track nearly a year ago now my main "issue" with it was that it felt too similar to my GT4 on stiffer springs and as a result it was a little too unsurprising for me to get truly excited about it. Awesome car, very entertaining, but it was really just like the car I already had except spicier. Didn't help that I also have a 981 PDK 3.8 race car on slicks I suppose. If I had cashed in all my favors at once I'd probably have gotten an allocation - but with the understanding that I was going to have to hang onto it for a couple of years minimum.
In any case, on regular roads and driving within reasonable limits not much will touch a 4RS for sheer entertainment value. It does require a particular kind of customer, as it has a fairly narrow skill set but it goes all in on its strengths.
Got mine two weeks ago and have put on 1900km now on public roads, mainly black forrest.
What i can say so far is that the EVO criticism of the suspension is bull****, i even find myself often driving in the hard setting on the not always so perfect black forrest roads. That criticism is just bull****, especially given the 3rd place of the much much firmer 992 GT3 in 2021.
The sound, as great as it is, can indeed be some kind of tiring. After 3h of driving in the mountains i got enough of it, yes, but that is easy to solve. I have now always a Bose Noise Cancelling headphone in my glovebox and on my way home i put them on, head to the Autobahn, put some music on and everything is just perfect.
Apart from that: This seems to be the best car i have ever owned. Even slightly better than the 997.2 RS which i still have in my garage. It`s simply such an occasion to blast this thing down a road. I even love the PDK.
Got mine two weeks ago and have put on 1900km now on public roads, mainly black forrest.
What i can say so far is that the EVO criticism of the suspension is bull****, i even find myself often driving in the hard setting on the not always so perfect black forrest roads. That criticism is just bull****, especially given the 3rd place of the much much firmer 992 GT3 in 2021.
The sound, as great as it is, can indeed be some kind of tiring. After 3h of driving in the mountains i got enough of it, yes, but that is easy to solve. I have now always a Bose Noise Cancelling headphone in my glovebox and on my way home i put them on, head to the Autobahn, put some music on and everything is just perfect.
Apart from that: This seems to be the best car i have ever owned. Even slightly better than the 997.2 RS which i still have in my garage. It`s simply such an occasion to blast this thing down a road. I even love the PDK.
Got mine two weeks ago and have put on 1900km now on public roads, mainly black forrest.
What i can say so far is that the EVO criticism of the suspension is bull****, i even find myself often driving in the hard setting on the not always so perfect black forrest roads. That criticism is just bull****, especially given the 3rd place of the much much firmer 992 GT3 in 2021.
The sound, as great as it is, can indeed be some kind of tiring. After 3h of driving in the mountains i got enough of it, yes, but that is easy to solve. I have now always a Bose Noise Cancelling headphone in my glovebox and on my way home i put them on, head to the Autobahn, put some music on and everything is just perfect.
Apart from that: This seems to be the best car i have ever owned. Even slightly better than the 997.2 RS which i still have in my garage. It`s simply such an occasion to blast this thing down a road. I even love the PDK.
992 GT3 is just a fad. Got rid of mine already with no regrets. If I were to get another GT3, it would be a 991, or a 996 if I want a manual. Smaller. 992 improved the turn in but that's about it and still cannot mask the fact that it is a whale of a car. I really hate the size of the 992s, feel like I am in a Panamera instead of a proper 911.
Haven't driven the 992 GT3RS yet, but that one really is extreme for street/track. It is basically a track car that can be driven to the track. 997 GT3RS are the holy grails. 991 versions are nicer, more civilized, but yeah, 997 versions tops them all.
There was only 2 Porsches I won't sell no matter what. 918 of course. The other one is the 991 turbo S Exclusive. That car is so bespoke it is unreal. Even now, there still isn't another Porsche with copper weaved carbon fibre trims. It's just a work of art.
GT4RS just joined that list. I rank it way above my 911R, which I had gotten rid of. 911R really wasn't anything special, it was just a beta car for Porsche to test out the new 6-speed manual. And that manual is just too good, it takes out all the fun in mastering and driving a manual car. Fool proof. Never miss a gear. What's the fun in that when driving a manual? I might as well drive a PDK.
If I really want to drive a manual, I take out my turbo 3.6 or even my 968. Those old school manual boxes are the real deal. When you shift out of 3rd, it's 50/50 whether you got 2nd or 4th. To master that shift it takes REAL SKILL. Clutch hinges the wrong way, pedals that do not line up, yeah, that's what separate men from boys. Actually basically anything thing pre-993 with be good.
There is zero skill involved in driving modern Porsche manual boxes, the gates are super precise, there is rev hang to help shifting even when one don't press the shift match button, I can air press my left leg to pretend I am using a clutch pedal every time I click up shift and basically match the modern Porsche manual experience.
*putting on flame retardant suit readying for the incoming flame from those manual 'diehards'* 🤣
I’ve had 2 7.2 RS’s. The last one I had to sell to get the 4RS. Made me sad. Unfortunately I have to be a one car guy. I hope I won’t be disappointed in the 4RS. Based on your highly regarded opinion I’m starting to feel I won’t regret the decision.
I’ve had 2 7.2 RS’s. The last one I had to sell to get the 4RS. Made me sad. Unfortunately I have to be a one car guy. I hope I won’t be disappointed in the 4RS. Based on your highly regarded opinion I’m starting to feel I won’t regret the decision.
Wondering if we'll see a change to your sig this summer...
"You only sell a 7.2 RS for a better 7.2 RS GT4RS..."
At our recent Porsche club meet there were two 4RSs at practice, one GT Silver and one red. Managed to get a passenger ride in the GT Silver and I can definitely see what everyone raves about. Felt very fast and very well planted and sound in the cabin with the mid engine and quarter panel window intakes is sensational but very loud. I notice the owner was wearing ear plugs even under the helmet! Just for comparison, my friend had his 992 GT3 there and he complains he can't hear the engine enough on the inside. Seems to me the 4RS is pretty perfect out of the box and no body role unlike what I've noticed in GT4 but I think the highlight is the motor sport engine/gear box and extra aero. Of course being in the passanger seat is always different but felt good to me.
At the following days supersprint there was a black 4RS which I was able to film some reasonable in-car footage whilst following. I think this driver was about a second or so off the pace as it is a tricky circuit to master for new drivers but you can see the stablity of the 4RS in the corners and the extra hp with the accelleration out of the corners. Looks to pull much like a GT3 and obviously going to make a bigger difference on a longer straight. My conclusion is if you can get one buy one.
I’ve had 2 7.2 RS’s. The last one I had to sell to get the 4RS. Made me sad. Unfortunately I have to be a one car guy. I hope I won’t be disappointed in the 4RS. Based on your highly regarded opinion I’m starting to feel I won’t regret the decision.
You are just too kind. I am just a random bloke with an opinion haha.
There isn't one perfect car for everyone. Each person will have their own preference and what they look for. GT4RS doesn't peak at any one single area, it's doesn't carry a 'best' tag. I would called it accomplished enough in any area one is looking for and will not disappoint.
It's been 5 years since I first saw the prototype, right there I told Walliser I am getting one. It's been a long journey waiting for it to materialize. Never have I waited so long for a car. The formula is perfect, stuffing a world class engine into a small mid engine chassis, with superb Porsche Motorsport suspension tuning. Not many cars will be better at carving up empty mountain roads, which there are plenty where I live.
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