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That's interesting as (just today, after this thread) I talked to a tech at my dealership who said it's not possible to retrofit the sensors, even though the wiring is all there, etc. He said he tried it with another customer's car and it didn't work (although he didn't elaborate on why it didn't / can't)
Unfortunately, that's more typical than it ever should be, two dealerships saying completely opposite things. Pretty lame in today's supposed information world.
I find your dealership's response questionable, but who knows. My initial thinking is that they are totally wrong. There are only two things, I can think of, that "should" be able to stop it from working.
1) Something missing in the chain (sensors, wiring/connectors, computer module)
2) Properly programming the appropriate computer module.
Both of these things are fixable.
I'll try to remember to report back when the dealership gets the sensor in as to whether they are successful or not.
Unfortunately, that's more typical than it ever should be, two dealerships saying completely opposite things. Pretty lame in today's supposed information world.
I find your dealership's response questionable, but who knows. My initial thinking is that they are totally wrong. There are only two things, I can think of, that "should" be able to stop it from working.
1) Something missing in the chain (sensors, wiring/connectors, computer module)
2) Properly programming the appropriate computer module.
Both of these things are fixable.
I'll try to remember to report back when the dealership gets the sensor in as to whether they are successful or not.
@AC53 Please post the part #'s for the sensors. I have a '22 and will attempt to activate the missing Trunk/Frunk gesture opening. Had it on my '18 718 and found it to be very useful. Thanks!
@AC53 Please post the part #'s for the sensors. I have a '22 and will attempt to activate the missing Trunk/Frunk gesture opening. Had it on my '18 718 and found it to be very useful. Thanks!
I see a couple entries for Keyfob Proximity sensor for Frunk and Trunk in PIWIS. @Z06jerry We can try to code this once we know which sensors are required.
On the GT4, I did not see those entries.
I see a couple entries for Keyfob Proximity sensor for Frunk and Trunk in PIWIS. @Z06jerry We can try to code this once we know which sensors are required.
On the GT4, I did not see those entries.
@718socal would it be worth trying to code my car while we wait to see if @AC53 can provide the sensor part numbers?
The feature *does* exist. It is simply that there is the known supply-chain issue with the availability of wiring harnesses, sensors, etc. Porsche is delivering the cars without them rather than holding up delivery of the car for that one minor feature.
My 2022 GTS came without the sensors installed. During the pre-delivery preparation, the dealer only had one sensor with the second one back ordered (there are two for the frunk IIRC). They installed the one sensor thinking that the system might work for a certain area at least, but no luck, so they put everything back together and will install the other sensor when it arrives.
It seems like the typical German engineering mistakes still prevail. ;-)
Originally Posted by AC53
Unfortunately, that's more typical than it ever should be, two dealerships saying completely opposite things. Pretty lame in today's supposed information world.
I find your dealership's response questionable, but who knows. My initial thinking is that they are totally wrong. There are only two things, I can think of, that "should" be able to stop it from working.
1) Something missing in the chain (sensors, wiring/connectors, computer module)
2) Properly programming the appropriate computer module.
Both of these things are fixable.
I'll try to remember to report back when the dealership gets the sensor in as to whether they are successful or not.
I think they're part # 99163713301, #1 and #2 on this diagram ...
I see a couple entries for Keyfob Proximity sensor for Frunk and Trunk in PIWIS. @Z06jerry We can try to code this once we know which sensors are required.
On the GT4, I did not see those entries.
... I've tried it with mine (which does have PE&D) according to the placement shown in the manual and I cannot for the life of me get it to work. Anybody know any more about this / how to make it work reliably ...?
Luki
Yes!
Originally Posted by Dr.Bill
Pretty sure that feature was eliminated in the 2022 models.
Supply chain issues. And, of course, no reimbursement for the missing option.
Here in Canada E&D stand alone was reduced by $130. (and I assume was reflected in the Premium Pkg which included E&D) to compensate for the missing function
Originally Posted by manifold danger
It was definitely removed for MY 22 but back for MY 23.
Originally Posted by AC53
.... My 2022 GTS came without the sensors installed. During the pre-delivery preparation, the dealer only had one sensor with the second one back ordered (there are two for the frunk IIRC). They installed the one sensor thinking that the system might work for a certain area at least, but no luck, so they put everything back together and will install the other sensor when it arrives. ....
One proximity sensor front and one rear. Also front antenna and rear antenna to detect presence of key.
Originally Posted by TikiLou
That's interesting as (just today, after this thread) I talked to a tech at my dealership who said it's not possible to retrofit the sensors, even though the wiring is all there, etc. He said he tried it with another customer's car and it didn't work (although he didn't elaborate on why it didn't / can't)
It is possible to install the sensors and coding. Your tech is wrong
Here's an update on my adventure to enable the E&D Gesture function on our '22 GTS 4.0 which was hobbled by the component shortage. With help from @718socalthis missing function is enabled ! The missing component is indeed the proximity sensor part # 99163713301. The wiring harness and antenna to detect the key were both present in my car BUT Instead of a functioning proximity sensor Porsche installed an empty housing in its place, Once I installed the missing sensor and coded to "Ja" (yes) (see above) the system is now working. Many thanks to @718socal
left side is actual proximity sensor part # 99163713301. right side is the dummy empty sensor housing that I found in my car
located beneath the front bumper cover
front bumper cover removed
location of front antenna to detect the presence of key. inside frunk behind carpet
close-up of antenna
coming soon ... fitting the new proximity sensor to the rear bumper ... pictures to follow hopefully!
i have it on mine ('17CS) as as posted above the only time i have ever "used" it was while washing the car and having it open without my intent. always happens when i have a big soap-filled sponge just about to touch the part so all the water can run inside...
10-05-2022, 09:52 AM
The missing component is indeed the proximity sensor part # 99163713301. The wiring harness and antenna to detect the key were both present in my car BUT Instead of a functioning proximity sensor Porsche installed an empty housing in its place, Once I installed the missing sensor and coded to "Ja" (yes) (see above) the system is now working. Many thanks to @718socal
