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It frustrates people because actual enthusiasts who would buy them and drive them, have to get scalped by dealers. The guys with 10 cars who probably don't care get gifted them as MSRP. Collectible is the operative word.
If you want track insurance, most insurers top out at sub $200k so even if you buy it to use as a track tool you are carrying a ton of risk.
I know that if I could get one at MSRP I'd buy one tomorrow.
And I get what you're saying and I totally understand it's frustrating. The bottom line is that the car has a market value over MSRP and that is why you can't buy one at MSRP.
If you bought the car at MSRP, decided you wanted to turn around and sell it, would you take MSRP? Of course not. You would want the market value for the car.
And I get the majority of MSRP buyers are not going to use the car as intended. But at the end of the day, they have spent the big $$$ with their dealers for that luxury. Most have not.
As far as the track insurance goes, in my mind if you can afford 200k+ track toy, you can afford to cover the difference between the covered and uncovered amounts.
I also primarily buy older classic Porsche's so my POV leans towards market value because that's the only thing that matters in that world.
I post when relevant to the thread discussion. If the info. is repeated , so what. Seriously, that bothers you???
Are you the forum police?
I very highly doubt that me posting stops anyone from posting their thoughts.
I too jumped in with 'whats wrong these Pcars". This was because the OP was expressing the same frustration that many of us feel about the Porsche experience. A lot of Hype, Sometimes the buyer gets screwed cause they cant get what they and when, and the cars - especially the enthusiasts cars need some mods because even the GT division has to make a profit and dumb down/cut corners/comply with regulations. So lots of complaints to go around about this brand even though they make an excellent product that is usually very enjoyable experience...
****. As I walked out to my garage a few mins ago, I realized I have the perfect vehicle for @TRZ06 . Made in Canuckland (that's close to the USA, right? Are F-bods still made there?), mid engined, ~8600 RPM, multi-link suspension in back, double wishbones up front, predictable handling, high quality interior, huge power to weight ratio, four way adjustable shocks with dual spring rates and adjustable crossover, and most importantly, it can handle those rough streets. I only charge a $25k ADM, it's a steal!
I have announced/leaked/hinted the GT4RS almost 3 years ago to the day here. Before any press got wind of it.
If anyone actually wanted it since back then, they could have already placed a deposit at their dealer to start the line back then, literally be the first in line. Waiting for the car to be announced and/or tested and/or reviewed are just asking for trouble, as by then everyone will know and will want one.
I know you told that and i am on "the list" since then. I trust you Whoopsy but i don't trust dealer because they sell to who they want and don't respect the order of the list. You just need to look at the marketplace to see all those gt car with less than 1000 miles to sell . I bought a gt4 in 2016 with one of the last allocation at my dealer. I enjoy it like the first day i bought it. I just feel sad that true enthusiasm like me can't have access to that car because a big percentage of buyer are Car and Coffee guy and flipper in america. Some true driver will have access to it but they are a minority...
****. As I walked out to my garage a few mins ago, I realized I have the perfect vehicle for @TRZ06 . Made in Canuckland (that's close to the USA, right? Are F-bods still made there?), mid engined, ~8600 RPM, multi-link suspension in back, double wishbones up front, predictable handling, high quality interior, huge power to weight ratio, four way adjustable shocks with dual spring rates and adjustable crossover, and most importantly, it can handle those rough streets. I only charge a $25k ADM, it's a steal!
HAHA,
For Off-road vehicles I much prefer a Polaris 800 RMK and 2 feet of fresh powder.
@TRZ06 Dont pay any nevermind... you tried the GT4 and you will just have to 'suffer' until your C8Z06 comes!
It's all good, I don't take anything here personal. It is an enthusiast car forum, nothing new here.
I have had most non exotic sports cars now from most of the sane (money wise) MFGs. over the years I always tell it how it is from my perspective as an enthusiast. There are fan bois for every brand, on every forum that live with tunnel vision and that is fine, I just have an eyes wide open mentality when it comes to the good and bad of any car I have ever had or have, regardless of brand.
I am not too proud to not admit a fault I discover in cars I own, even if they are current cars.
Other than a house, a sports car is one of the most expensive items people buy, and for those that do not FU money, the bar should be set high as a consumer, especially when you are forking over $100K
Everyone who has a good relationship with a good dealer will get a GT4RS at MSRP but it may take a little time. My dealer gave me my Touring allocation on the 3rd round of allocations so I'll patiently wait for my name to be called.
The World is truly crazy when Martin gets a eunuch GT3!
I wonder why Porsche does not charge more for these cars, they let the dealers take all of the profits? VW is leaving shareholder’s money on the table.
Prices went up quite a bit in my market last 12mnths
I have announced/leaked/hinted the GT4RS almost 3 years ago to the day here. Before any press got wind of it.
If anyone actually wanted it since back then, they could have already placed a deposit at their dealer to start the line back then, literally be the first in line. Waiting for the car to be announced and/or tested and/or reviewed are just asking for trouble, as by then everyone will know and will want one.
I appreciate your insight as I did just that and placed a deposit for one years ago. Still no allocations for my dealer though so hoping Porsche makes plenty.
03-25-2022, 05:01 PM
