GT4 RS Allocation Thread
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Well, there you have it. I guess the matter is resolved. Guys...don't bother absolutely tearing up your local tracks. Manifold has declared it incapable / unworthy.
Whew, glad we got THAT sorted.
(I rolled my eyes so hard, I think one got stuck...)
Whew, glad we got THAT sorted.
(I rolled my eyes so hard, I think one got stuck...)
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Please provide a reference for where they said "just for show". You totally made that **** up. lol
"Not optimized for track" is not the same as "totally inappropriate for the track". Someone posted a mid 7's for the ring in a regular 718 spyder. Assuming the SRS is faster than that, that sounds pretty darned capable on the track.
One of the reasons I have loved boxsters from the start was the look on other driver's faces as they got passed. This will be the absolutely KING of that phenomenon.
Please provide a reference for where they said "just for show". You totally made that **** up. lol
"Not optimized for track" is not the same as "totally inappropriate for the track". Someone posted a mid 7's for the ring in a regular 718 spyder. Assuming the SRS is faster than that, that sounds pretty darned capable on the track.
One of the reasons I have loved boxsters from the start was the look on other driver's faces as they got passed. This will be the absolutely KING of that phenomenon.
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God, you're a tedious blowhard.
Please provide a reference for where they said "just for show". You totally made that **** up. lol
"Not optimized for track" is not the same as "totally inappropriate for the track". Someone posted a mid 7's for the ring in a regular 718 spyder. Assuming the SRS is faster than that, that sounds pretty darned capable on the track.
Please provide a reference for where they said "just for show". You totally made that **** up. lol
"Not optimized for track" is not the same as "totally inappropriate for the track". Someone posted a mid 7's for the ring in a regular 718 spyder. Assuming the SRS is faster than that, that sounds pretty darned capable on the track.
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Stop trying to convince yourself that this road car is a track car. It's not. Macan GTS will be fast on track, but that doesn't make it a track car. SRS is a 4RS converted into a road car by reducing the aero, softening the suspension, and putting a top on the car which can't be used at high speed. Enjoy the car for what it is.
And I noticed you didn't provide a reference. Ahem.
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From Spyder RS launch press pack confirming that the priority was road and not track performance:
Chassis and suspension systems
Optimised for driving pleasure and agility on country roads
The top priority for engineers in the development of the 718 Spyder RS was to deliver
maximum driving pleasure on winding roads. The mid-engined roadster uses the same
components, with inspiration from the GT racing world, as its closed-roof sister model, the
718 Cayman GT4 RS. The suspension, however, has been retuned. The final tenth of a
second on the track took a back seat, as it were. The priority was on exceptional
driveability and maximum steering precision that gives the driver a high level of confidence
in the car while providing a high degree of feedback.
But please stop growling at each other. I imagine it is an exceptional car on the track too and I hope, one day, to actually see one on the road.
Chassis and suspension systems
Optimised for driving pleasure and agility on country roads
The top priority for engineers in the development of the 718 Spyder RS was to deliver
maximum driving pleasure on winding roads. The mid-engined roadster uses the same
components, with inspiration from the GT racing world, as its closed-roof sister model, the
718 Cayman GT4 RS. The suspension, however, has been retuned. The final tenth of a
second on the track took a back seat, as it were. The priority was on exceptional
driveability and maximum steering precision that gives the driver a high level of confidence
in the car while providing a high degree of feedback.
But please stop growling at each other. I imagine it is an exceptional car on the track too and I hope, one day, to actually see one on the road.
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I can just imagine the hilarity at Porsche Central when they finalized the features on this car, and how it would be "marketed." I am pretty sure they could see the heads exploding all over the internet as people debated (ad nauseum) what an RS is, what a track car is, and where the SRS fits. To be sure, it is a messaging mess extraordinaire. That was pointed out and discussed on this very board on Day 1 of reveal.
Dude, your risk tolerances are YOUR risk tolerances. Preach all you want. That doesn't mean the car isn't an absolute weapon. Personally, I think Porsche is afraid this car is TOO MUCH for the average Joe on a track, and doesn't want people to see them as openly encouraging its use that way. But AP said on release day...this car was "dialed back" (from ultimate track performance as the entire ethos) because people use convertibles less on the track than other cars. That is not the same as saying "not to be used on the track" by any stretch, and it certainly isn't the same as saying the car isn't stoopid capable on a track. RS purist hand wringing or no RS purist hand wringing.
All you "not a real RS" folks can take it up with AP.
Dude, your risk tolerances are YOUR risk tolerances. Preach all you want. That doesn't mean the car isn't an absolute weapon. Personally, I think Porsche is afraid this car is TOO MUCH for the average Joe on a track, and doesn't want people to see them as openly encouraging its use that way. But AP said on release day...this car was "dialed back" (from ultimate track performance as the entire ethos) because people use convertibles less on the track than other cars. That is not the same as saying "not to be used on the track" by any stretch, and it certainly isn't the same as saying the car isn't stoopid capable on a track. RS purist hand wringing or no RS purist hand wringing.
All you "not a real RS" folks can take it up with AP.
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I'm in the I don't take or ride in verts on the track. That is a risk factor to far for this Boomer. If I live in top down cruising country, that's not FL, then yes I could see owning a convertible. And the Spyder RS is a true RS as that is its designation from Porsche.
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I can just imagine the hilarity at Porsche Central when they finalized the features on this car, and how it would be "marketed." I am pretty sure they could see the heads exploding all over the internet as people debated (ad nauseum) what an RS is, what a track car is, and where the SRS fits. To be sure, it is a messaging mess extraordinaire. That was pointed out and discussed on this very board on Day 1 of reveal.
Dude, your risk tolerances are YOUR risk tolerances. Preach all you want. That doesn't mean the car isn't an absolute weapon. Personally, I think Porsche is afraid this car is TOO MUCH for the average Joe on a track, and doesn't want people to see them as openly encouraging its use that way. But AP said on release day...this car was "dialed back" (from ultimate track performance as the entire ethos) because people use convertibles less on the track than other cars. That is not the same as saying "not to be used on the track" by any stretch, and it certainly isn't the same as saying the car isn't stoopid capable on a track. RS purist hand wringing or no RS purist hand wringing.
All you "not a real RS" folks can take it up with AP.
Dude, your risk tolerances are YOUR risk tolerances. Preach all you want. That doesn't mean the car isn't an absolute weapon. Personally, I think Porsche is afraid this car is TOO MUCH for the average Joe on a track, and doesn't want people to see them as openly encouraging its use that way. But AP said on release day...this car was "dialed back" (from ultimate track performance as the entire ethos) because people use convertibles less on the track than other cars. That is not the same as saying "not to be used on the track" by any stretch, and it certainly isn't the same as saying the car isn't stoopid capable on a track. RS purist hand wringing or no RS purist hand wringing.
All you "not a real RS" folks can take it up with AP.
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Spot on.
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Dude it is just marketing, chill. People freaked out over Taycan Turbo not having turbo.
RS in the past has been reserved for track car marketing, but Porsche decided to use RS badge on SRS diluting the meaning.
Honestly I don't know how else Porsche should call it (remeber the point is to get max money, not being accurate). Maybe like Porsche 718 Spyder S would be more accurate, but sure enough won't attract as much money as Spyder RS.
RS in the past has been reserved for track car marketing, but Porsche decided to use RS badge on SRS diluting the meaning.
Honestly I don't know how else Porsche should call it (remeber the point is to get max money, not being accurate). Maybe like Porsche 718 Spyder S would be more accurate, but sure enough won't attract as much money as Spyder RS.