TXshaggy

4th QTR allocations…so opening July/August checks.

Manifold

Are there additional allocations being given to dealers?

Justaroofer

Whole Lotta random information going on around here.... who knows what's what these days. Even the dealers are in the dark. The only reliable information is once you receive a commission # and sign that build sheet.

GainesvilleGT4

Both my SA and SM at my dealer are customers of mine. I'm in contact with them about once a month for different reasons other than P cars. Both say GT4RS allocations are done for them and that Porsche is moving on. However, there are Rennlisters that want a different outcome, so they post what they'd like to see happen rather than what many folks are experiencing trying to find an allocation. My advice, GT4RSs will never be cheaper than they are right now. If you want one, pay your ADM (or take the equivalent losses in depreciation on the 4 Macans you need to buy to get higher on the list). At some point in the near future we'll have to go back to all these posts and call out those that were overly-obnoxious while getting it wrong. Results matter.

TXshaggy

I was only responding to projected PTS opening, not allocations.

Justaroofer

Its honestly commom sense. They have to keep the lines running at peak efficiency amd the platform for the 4RS and parts needed to build likely create a lower overall profit point. Plus it's such a unique car Porsche always wanted to make it special for all those that craved a GT3 motor in a 718 Platform.

it's just common sense they wouldn't mass produce regardless of being numbered or not.

cooler2442

Previously I was hoping they would pump out a ton of 4RS's because I wanted one. After picking one up, I'm now in the camp of where I hope production is winding down and the car stays limited lol...

85Gold

When did common sense and Porsche learn to co-exist. I am of the camp they will keep building the GT4RS until they shut down 718 production. Also do you really expect a dealer to tell you the truth about allocations. It's in their best interest to keep the hype going of limited availability.

Peter

GainesvilleGT4

In the late 1980's I invented a product called colored gauge faces, they were metal panels that came in different colors that laid over the VDO gauges and you could turn your stock black gauge faces to white, red, tan, etc. Mine were different to the stickers that were available at the time, laser cut dies at a time when that was very high tech. I supplied them to a catalog company called Performance Products, which is still around in a much smaller form, but was absolutely huge for the Porsche community at the time. It was my first attempt into manufacturing (was in my early 20s) and the Porsche world in general. One thing I noticed is that even back then there was a lot of inheritance money in the Porsche community. You can infer from that what you will but I'd say common sense has a better chance of developing in those folks that were forced to start from zero or near zero.

momo360

So what is Porsche going to build if not the 4RS? They cancelled the GT4 and Spyder this year already. Are they ONLY going to build Spyder RSs at that plant now? Seems like excessive capacity for a model that's so compromised. I don't think there will be equal number of buyers for it as there were for the 4RS.

Justaroofer

Doubtful. The tooling requirements are too different. I like what you did there and I completely agree.

GainesvilleGT4

This is purely speculation now on my part, but from my experience as a manufacturer, I'd try and eak out as much profitability as I can from the enormous development cost of a turbo 4 cylinder that I only made for a few years and wasn't well received by the public initially and has no future in my product portfolio. The expensive 6 cylinder I'd save only for a higher priced product like the GT3. I'd make sure all 4 cylinder production went to the new assembly plant and use the old plant only for the GT3s when assembling in the 4.0 engine. My desire to show profitability for the turbo 4 would far outweigh my desire to make more profit per car between a 718S vs GT4RS because I'd have to explain to my investors why I made the decision to go to a turbo 4 to begin with. If the cost to develop the turbo 4 was $20M and I only made 50,000 cars, I'd look like a much better product planner if I sold 100,000 cars during the life cycle of the motor. Whether I sell 5000 GT4Rs and 5000 GT3s, or just made 10,000 GT3s, I'm still going to sell every one I can make (if my supply chain even allows me to do so).

85Gold

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85Gold

We will see People who have an allotment want production to cease for their own selfish reasons, those who don't have an allotment want production to continue so they have a shot at the goodness. This is not sour grapes in my case as I am not a potential 4RS buyer. If I was willing to deal with CL Wheels I would get a 991.2 GT3 over a 4RS all day everyday.

Peter

Manifold

Dealers don’t know what Porsche doesn’t tell them. They may decide to make more 4RS, as they did the GT3.