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Old 07-11-2021 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nolmsted
Anyone else tired of waiting and no updates???

I have an email from Porsche vp dated April 6th “from what we know now the engine replacement will be 3-6 months from now”

i emailed him today and said it’s been 3 months - no updates - how is this possible???? I guess they just don’t care I paid $108,000 for a new car not one sitting in Baltimore port sun and elements for who knows how long.

I am just about done I don’t need this car that bad. Porsche has set new standard for terrible customer service
A friend emailed the SA to request an update on his BGTS 4.0 that’s been sitting on the showroom floor since March next to the CGTS I ordered.

The update was “no update at this time.” It’s obviously a corporate culture practice within Porsche and the dealers. They feel no obligation to provide updates and they don’t. The GM at my dealer said in no uncertain terms that communication in these situations can only lead to problems.

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Old 07-11-2021 | 01:13 PM
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I too am very frustrated about the lack of status. Its been long enough that the “path” is understood and thus it should be communicated for whatever that path maybe. I have a lot of things that commits my time and attention and I need to understand what i give priority to. Its time to tell people what is going on
Old 07-11-2021 | 01:31 PM
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okee, some good news from Belgium.
I've put in my first 718 Spyder order in at june 2019 with the PDK option as must have.
This resulted in a production slot in March 2021, and my car was build on the 3rd of March 2021, just in the end of the faulty conrod batch.
The promise was made that in week 20 the conrods were coming, but when the engine was ready for the conrods, the bolts (and more) were missing in the shipment.
Second promise was for week 25, and in that week the engine was rebuild and put back in the car again.
The Spyder is currently at the detailer for the final steps, and the 1st takeoff will take place this week (probably around saturday).
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Old 07-11-2021 | 01:31 PM
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I want an update and I’m also convinced an update is only going to **** me off.
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Old 07-11-2021 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramon Vennik
okee, some good news from Belgium.
I've put in my first 718 Spyder order in at june 2019 with the PDK option as must have.
This resulted in a production slot in March 2021, and my car was build on the 3rd of March 2021, just in the end of the faulty conrod batch.
The promise was made that in week 20 the conrods were coming, but when the engine was ready for the conrods, the bolts (and more) were missing in the shipment.
Second promise was for week 25, and in that week the engine was rebuild and put back in the car again.
The Spyder is currently at the detailer for the final steps, and the 1st takeoff will take place this week (probably around saturday).
One thing this experience has taught me is that Porsche and dealers will sell you a car and then not let you drive it off the lot and they won’t even give a reason why. No way I’d leave my new car at the dealer for more than 3 minutes after I signed the paperwork and owned the car. Detailing, paint correction, installation of accessories and anything else will be done by someone other than the dealer.
Old 07-11-2021 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sanderabernathy
One thing this experience has taught me is that Porsche and dealers will sell you a car and then not let you drive it off the lot and they won’t even give a reason why. No way I’d leave my new car at the dealer for more than 3 minutes after I signed the paperwork and owned the car. Detailing, paint correction, installation of accessories and anything else will be done by someone other than the dealer.
Every dealer is different, I’ve asked to pickup the Spyder at the detailer (5 minute drive for me) instead of at the dealer (1 hour drive). No issue at all.
The detailing is especially done by independent detailer to inspect the car, not by me or dealer but by a specialist.
No bad feelings yet.
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Old 07-11-2021 | 05:15 PM
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There is no update possibly because they don’t know themselves. Or no change from original estimate of 3-6 months.

So many moving parts they have to deal with. This is a logistical nightmare with all the supply chain constraints/ delay. I am sure they want to get it done and over with also.

They don’t want to overpromise and underdeliver. I am starting to think this could happen.

Better the other way around.

Old 07-11-2021 | 06:05 PM
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So in 3 months they know nothing new - shortage of components - time constraints- it is looking like longer delay - nothing???

really I find it hard to believe they don’t know - THEY just don’t care. I am done they win
Old 07-11-2021 | 08:14 PM
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What's really baffling is nobody outside of the few that took delivery before the Stop Sale have gotten new engines and only a few have posted that have had their rods replaced. Does anyone know of a single person who didn't take delivery that has gotten a new engine? Back in May I had hope I would have my car in July or August at the latest, now I'm not so sure.
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Old 07-11-2021 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nothingman
What's really baffling is nobody outside of the few that took delivery before the Stop Sale have gotten new engines and only a few have posted that have had their rods replaced. Does anyone know of a single person who didn't take delivery that has gotten a new engine? Back in May I had hope I would have my car in July or August at the latest, now I'm not so sure.

most likely not. 😭
Old 07-11-2021 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nothingman
Back in May I had hope I would have my car in July or August at the latest, now I'm not so sure.
Possibly bleaker than that for some. Doesn't Porsche manufacturing shut down in August?
(I do hope they have shipped most of the replacement engines by then)
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Here is my hope. In the US the plan is to replace the engines at the port in almost all cases. I think Porsche has been building and shipping engines to the ports while they establish the space and the process to do the work. Radio silence from Porsche while all of this is happening behind the scenes. Soon, if not already, I hope the process of replacing them kicks into high gear and fixed cars start to leave port in late July / Aug / Sept. I’m assuming Porsche needs to have all the replacement engines built and shipped to port before the factory shuts down in August and they may already be there.

Fingers crossed that that are making progress but lacking in communication. I can see the logic if I remove myself as the emotional buyer. They told us 3 to 6 months and likely nothing has changed so there is nothing else to say. Logical. Rational. Unemotional. German
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Old 07-11-2021 | 09:58 PM
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^Vulcan ??
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Old 07-12-2021 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Jones
Here is my hope. In the US the plan is to replace the engines at the port in almost all cases. I think Porsche has been building and shipping engines to the ports while they establish the space and the process to do the work. Radio silence from Porsche while all of this is happening behind the scenes. Soon, if not already, I hope the process of replacing them kicks into high gear and fixed cars start to leave port in late July / Aug / Sept. I’m assuming Porsche needs to have all the replacement engines built and shipped to port before the factory shuts down in August and they may already be there.

Fingers crossed that that are making progress but lacking in communication. I can see the logic if I remove myself as the emotional buyer. They told us 3 to 6 months and likely nothing has changed so there is nothing else to say. Logical. Rational. Unemotional. German
I was drinking chocolate milk when I read this and it shot out my nose.

I think the vast majority of the undelivered stop-sale cars in the United States are at the dealers rather than the port.

Assuming the cars are at the ports, they’ve had months to establish space and processes to perform the swaps. Yet no one, not a single person, has said they had their car fixed at the port and delivered.

As for the August break, no one ever said they would ship the engines before the August break.

The reality is that they aren’t delivering engines. I think you need to settle in for a wait that will extend into Autumn and end in December.
Old 07-12-2021 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sanderabernathy
The reality is that they aren’t delivering engines. I think you need to settle in for a wait that will extend into Autumn and end in December.
This is your opinion, it may not be reality. I think Porsche has shipped some engines to port but I can’t personally confirm. My SA made a comment about engines clearing port entry but I left it at that. Nobody seems to have or be willing to share any real insight which leaves us all filling in the gaps. I’m just trying to stay positive until proven otherwise.

I’m curious why you think the majority of undelivered cars are at dealers? You may be right, I have no idea. I know mine is in Houston and the dealer was unable to get Porsche to move it but I’m a data point of one
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