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Probably worth a few hundreths, not sure a tenth as I suspect drag isn't that significant until you're already close to 120 MPH.
Totally agree, not expecting the car to suddenly be a bunch faster but it certainly won’t be slower.
It’s just important to dot the i’s and cross the t’s when it comes to these things so if reasonings are being made as to why we’re achieving the times we are (other than the exhaust making power) then I’m more than happy to go to the effort of proving otherwise.
So, stock wing. Stock wheels and a full tank of fuel in for the next run
I think we can all agree that 2kg of weight saving on the bonnet and the slim weight savings offered by the Ohlins dampers should be more than offset by the full tank of fuel. I don’t think anything else has been missed but there’s a few weeks before the next Silverstone date so if anything crops up we can be prepared
JC
Last edited by JCR-Porsche; 05-02-2021 at 07:33 AM.
Totally agree, not expecting the car to suddenly be a bunch faster but it certainly won’t be slower.
It’s just important to dot the i’s and cross the t’s when it comes to these things so if reasonings are being made as to why we’re achieving the times we are (other than the exhaust making power) then I’m more than happy to go to the effort of proving otherwise.
So, stock wing. Stock wheels and a full tank of fuel in for the next run
I think we can agree that 2kg of weight saving on the bonnet and the slim weight savings offered by the Ohlins dampers should be more than offset by the full tank of fuel that I’ll make sure the car has for the runs also.
JC
IMO thats too much work. Just weigh the car as is so we know where its at. I, for one, know for a fact your car can still run deep into the 7 with all the stock stuff on it. Jonny’s car already can break 7 and mine can too (barely, the stock muffler sucks). Without a tune its all about the atmospheric conditions as the car cuts alot of hp once the DA goes up above 3-500m. 1-2000m, forget it, nobody is breaking 8. Now if u can rip a 7 with the stock wheels a full tank of gas, and a DA of 500 m, that would be legendary. But to be honest i think the horse is dead, burried, and decomposed. Your cars are fast, the times are the times, and lets move forward to some pdk cars and tuned cars for further comparison.
Last edited by Rennolazine; 05-02-2021 at 07:49 AM.
And for the record of this thread, capturing of all mods and conditions is what is supposed to make this exercise scientific. If you look at the actual dragy leaderboard posts from around the globe most of the cars list all the mods.. Drag times does the same. ie powertrain, software, weight saving measures, exhaust mods etc are supposed to be captured. For a manual car most people wont notice how good the driver is because they dont look at the changes in acceleration over time. Whoever calls this information “making excuses” and tries to invalidate them... tough cookies. Scientific information for the community. However, comments such as “Pete dont be butthurt if youre not #1” are allowable.
not dragy - but different journalists - subtract 4.0-4.4 from the 0-200KPH times
fastest was 12.7 quattroroute italian magazine - 3.9s = 8.8s
german sport auto (they have a second passenger on board = 9.6s or similar)
this doesnt work because you should be in 2nd gear at 80 and 3rd gear tops out at 180. A pull 80-160 in 4th is more like an engine response pull and will be significantly slower than redlining the correct gears
Here u go. Did 1 pull. At 80kph in 4th gear it feels like its standing still 🤣
absolutely true.
they do this to simulate unshifted "elasticity" and it is used when you do tuning, i.e. you try 80-160 in 4th, then do the mapping and/or hardware changes then do it again.
i put 10% shorter gearing in my 981 spyder and it is now at around 6.9s 80-160 in 4th, and on a normal road at streetable speeds it pulls much better (feeling like around 50hp more).
absolutely true.
they do this to simulate unshifted "elasticity" and it is used when you do tuning, i.e. you try 80-160 in 4th, then do the mapping and/or hardware changes then do it again.
i put 10% shorter gearing in my 981 spyder and it is now at around 6.9s 80-160 in 4th, and on a normal road at streetable speeds it pulls much better (feeling like around 50hp more).
the 981 spyder/gt4 hat around 9.2s 80.160 with same gearing in 4th, but 2 people in the car. so even though it feels like a standstill, the 718 seems to have a considerably improved time that is apples to apple comparison due to same gearbox.
the 981 spyder/gt4 hat around 9.2s 80.160 with same gearing in 4th, but 2 people in the car. so even though it feels like a standstill, the 718 seems to have a considerably improved time that is apples to apple comparison due to same gearbox.
I dont think I would ever be in 4th gear at 80 kph. For sure would downshift to 2nd maybe 3rd depending on the situation. I realize this car is NA and if I want it to go/feel fast I need to ring the engine by the neck. Its actually suprisingly quick for "only 414 hp", despite this after headers its very similar to my 2020 vantage, which was no joke. But to get this performance you need to make the engine scream. I think the 718 has alot more top end from the factory than the 3.8 in the 981 did.
05-02-2021, 07:09 AM
