Kline 718 GT4/Spyder exhaust
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Reached out to Kline. SS version sounds INCREDIBLE. The video they sent me had Link pipes/valvetronic exhaust/stock headers. (I wish I could attach it here but it's MP4 format - I'm new to rennlist). Can't imagine what the inconel sounds like.
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put it up on instagram and post the link
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Will get to the video posted tomorrow perhaps on YouTube? I took the dive and ordered the full inconel system (no headers) lol - It was between them or SOUL. I originally wanted Titanium so Inconel is the next best thing or even better. They confirmed they make US spec and EU Spec via email. I did order the valve controller from Soul though to add and keep the valves open
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FYI. Here is the video sent to me by Kline. Stainless Steel OAP + Stainless Steel Valvetronic system. Stock Headers
That being said, I went ahead and took the leap of faith for the inconel system without the headers and I'm pairing it with the Soul valve controller to top it off and have sound also on the low RPM side.
That being said, I went ahead and took the leap of faith for the inconel system without the headers and I'm pairing it with the Soul valve controller to top it off and have sound also on the low RPM side.
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It sounds like two distinct signatures; probably valves close and open. Hopefully, we'll have driving sounds, at WOT and cruising, soon. This is sounding promising.
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I hope you don't mind me dropping in. JCR has been mentioned a number of times throughout this thread so thought it best to pass comment.
We shared our dyno data before any one else with our Inconel Race Headers, Titanium OPF Deletes and Titanium Silenced Valved Race Pipe. The numbers and the deltas are BIG, larger than many would have expected, including ourselves, had we not driven the car and felt it for ourselves for thousands of track testing miles before releasing Dyno data. Yes, we test for thousands of miles on track before releasing products, not just one revision, dyno run and bam, get it on the website![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
As the first it's inevitable that the numbers come under fire. The usual suspect started issuing warnings as why you shouldn't trust dyno data from a company without their own dyno etc etc, all of that usual stuff.. All documented on their social media if anyone cares to indulge.
Roll on a few weeks, that same company releases their own data and the numbers all of a sudden line up. "Our 718 GT4 makes stock 991.1 GT3 numbers on the same dyno" they proudly state .. Strangely close to the 475hp peak we claimed? Maybe a coincidence
Needless to say, our numbers are no longer being questioned.
Soul have just posted an independent dyno from a customer running their Race system with OEM headers. 30whp gains from a 'cat-back' alone, it seems a lot but then it ties in with what we should come to expect.
I can't comment on Kline / Cargraphics data they have released as we only concern ourselves with our own data.
The point I'm making is that whilst our figures may have seemed extraordinary in the first instance, as time goes on the more apparent it will become that they're in fact in line with what you should come to expect from a properly designed and tested exhaust solution when installed on this platform.
JC
We shared our dyno data before any one else with our Inconel Race Headers, Titanium OPF Deletes and Titanium Silenced Valved Race Pipe. The numbers and the deltas are BIG, larger than many would have expected, including ourselves, had we not driven the car and felt it for ourselves for thousands of track testing miles before releasing Dyno data. Yes, we test for thousands of miles on track before releasing products, not just one revision, dyno run and bam, get it on the website
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
As the first it's inevitable that the numbers come under fire. The usual suspect started issuing warnings as why you shouldn't trust dyno data from a company without their own dyno etc etc, all of that usual stuff.. All documented on their social media if anyone cares to indulge.
Roll on a few weeks, that same company releases their own data and the numbers all of a sudden line up. "Our 718 GT4 makes stock 991.1 GT3 numbers on the same dyno" they proudly state .. Strangely close to the 475hp peak we claimed? Maybe a coincidence
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Soul have just posted an independent dyno from a customer running their Race system with OEM headers. 30whp gains from a 'cat-back' alone, it seems a lot but then it ties in with what we should come to expect.
I can't comment on Kline / Cargraphics data they have released as we only concern ourselves with our own data.
The point I'm making is that whilst our figures may have seemed extraordinary in the first instance, as time goes on the more apparent it will become that they're in fact in line with what you should come to expect from a properly designed and tested exhaust solution when installed on this platform.
JC
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I hope you don't mind me dropping in. JCR has been mentioned a number of times throughout this thread so thought it best to pass comment.
We shared our dyno data before any one else with our Inconel Race Headers, Titanium OPF Deletes and Titanium Silenced Valved Race Pipe. The numbers and the deltas are BIG, larger than many would have expected, including ourselves, had we not driven the car and felt it for ourselves for thousands of track testing miles before releasing Dyno data. Yes, we test for thousands of miles on track before releasing products, not just one revision, dyno run and bam, get it on the website![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
As the first it's inevitable that the numbers come under fire. The usual suspect started issuing warnings as why you shouldn't trust dyno data from a company without their own dyno etc etc, all of that usual stuff.. All documented on their social media if anyone cares to indulge.
Roll on a few weeks, that same company releases their own data and the numbers all of a sudden line up. "Our 718 GT4 makes stock 991.1 GT3 numbers on the same dyno" they proudly state .. Strangely close to the 475hp peak we claimed? Maybe a coincidence
Needless to say, our numbers are no longer being questioned.
Soul have just posted an independent dyno from a customer running their Race system with OEM headers. 30whp gains from a 'cat-back' alone, it seems a lot but then it ties in with what we should come to expect.
I can't comment on Kline / Cargraphics data they have released as we only concern ourselves with our own data.
The point I'm making is that whilst our figures may have seemed extraordinary in the first instance, as time goes on the more apparent it will become that they're in fact in line with what you should come to expect from a properly designed and tested exhaust solution when installed on this platform.
JC
We shared our dyno data before any one else with our Inconel Race Headers, Titanium OPF Deletes and Titanium Silenced Valved Race Pipe. The numbers and the deltas are BIG, larger than many would have expected, including ourselves, had we not driven the car and felt it for ourselves for thousands of track testing miles before releasing Dyno data. Yes, we test for thousands of miles on track before releasing products, not just one revision, dyno run and bam, get it on the website
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
As the first it's inevitable that the numbers come under fire. The usual suspect started issuing warnings as why you shouldn't trust dyno data from a company without their own dyno etc etc, all of that usual stuff.. All documented on their social media if anyone cares to indulge.
Roll on a few weeks, that same company releases their own data and the numbers all of a sudden line up. "Our 718 GT4 makes stock 991.1 GT3 numbers on the same dyno" they proudly state .. Strangely close to the 475hp peak we claimed? Maybe a coincidence
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Soul have just posted an independent dyno from a customer running their Race system with OEM headers. 30whp gains from a 'cat-back' alone, it seems a lot but then it ties in with what we should come to expect.
I can't comment on Kline / Cargraphics data they have released as we only concern ourselves with our own data.
The point I'm making is that whilst our figures may have seemed extraordinary in the first instance, as time goes on the more apparent it will become that they're in fact in line with what you should come to expect from a properly designed and tested exhaust solution when installed on this platform.
JC
I got to agree with you on this......all results pouring in are showing pretty much what you found from the beginning.
You got to understand something, no one expected these gains from a N/A engine and even less from Porsche so it's a given that people will question numbers at first until it's corroborated with other results, even from other vendors.
I do have to give it to JCR that they took the jump into the 718 from the get go thus why they have become the target
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Don't worry, number and results will speak louder than anything over time....
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I hope you don't mind me dropping in. JCR has been mentioned a number of times throughout this thread so thought it best to pass comment.
We shared our dyno data before any one else with our Inconel Race Headers, Titanium OPF Deletes and Titanium Silenced Valved Race Pipe. The numbers and the deltas are BIG, larger than many would have expected, including ourselves, had we not driven the car and felt it for ourselves for thousands of track testing miles before releasing Dyno data. Yes, we test for thousands of miles on track before releasing products, not just one revision, dyno run and bam, get it on the website![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
As the first it's inevitable that the numbers come under fire. The usual suspect started issuing warnings as why you shouldn't trust dyno data from a company without their own dyno etc etc, all of that usual stuff.. All documented on their social media if anyone cares to indulge.
Roll on a few weeks, that same company releases their own data and the numbers all of a sudden line up. "Our 718 GT4 makes stock 991.1 GT3 numbers on the same dyno" they proudly state .. Strangely close to the 475hp peak we claimed? Maybe a coincidence
Needless to say, our numbers are no longer being questioned.
Soul have just posted an independent dyno from a customer running their Race system with OEM headers. 30whp gains from a 'cat-back' alone, it seems a lot but then it ties in with what we should come to expect.
I can't comment on Kline / Cargraphics data they have released as we only concern ourselves with our own data.
The point I'm making is that whilst our figures may have seemed extraordinary in the first instance, as time goes on the more apparent it will become that they're in fact in line with what you should come to expect from a properly designed and tested exhaust solution when installed on this platform.
JC
We shared our dyno data before any one else with our Inconel Race Headers, Titanium OPF Deletes and Titanium Silenced Valved Race Pipe. The numbers and the deltas are BIG, larger than many would have expected, including ourselves, had we not driven the car and felt it for ourselves for thousands of track testing miles before releasing Dyno data. Yes, we test for thousands of miles on track before releasing products, not just one revision, dyno run and bam, get it on the website
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
As the first it's inevitable that the numbers come under fire. The usual suspect started issuing warnings as why you shouldn't trust dyno data from a company without their own dyno etc etc, all of that usual stuff.. All documented on their social media if anyone cares to indulge.
Roll on a few weeks, that same company releases their own data and the numbers all of a sudden line up. "Our 718 GT4 makes stock 991.1 GT3 numbers on the same dyno" they proudly state .. Strangely close to the 475hp peak we claimed? Maybe a coincidence
![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Soul have just posted an independent dyno from a customer running their Race system with OEM headers. 30whp gains from a 'cat-back' alone, it seems a lot but then it ties in with what we should come to expect.
I can't comment on Kline / Cargraphics data they have released as we only concern ourselves with our own data.
The point I'm making is that whilst our figures may have seemed extraordinary in the first instance, as time goes on the more apparent it will become that they're in fact in line with what you should come to expect from a properly designed and tested exhaust solution when installed on this platform.
JC
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I got to agree with you on this......all results pouring in are showing pretty much what you found from the beginning.
You got to understand something, no one expected these gains from a N/A engine and even less from Porsche so it's a given that people will question numbers at first until it's corroborated with other results, even from other vendors.
I do have to give it to JCR that they took the jump into the 718 from the get go thus why they have become the target![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Don't worry, number and results will speak louder than anything over time....
You got to understand something, no one expected these gains from a N/A engine and even less from Porsche so it's a given that people will question numbers at first until it's corroborated with other results, even from other vendors.
I do have to give it to JCR that they took the jump into the 718 from the get go thus why they have become the target
![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Don't worry, number and results will speak louder than anything over time....
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JC, I think some of us are just trying to figure out the different combinations and the reasons for the different power outputs. Obviously keeping the cats (even if it is race cats) and having monitored OPFs certainly reduces the gains. I actually don't think many people doubt the numbers in this thread (I certainly don't), but trying to figure out what system suits them best, and with European cars, without a tune or some sort of monitored OPF the choices are somewhat limited if you want big power. But as you say, there seems to be a lot of potential in this engine. On that note, I'm a bit surprised that the new GT3 only appears to get a 10 bhp bump compared to the 991.2.
I wasn't at all intending to hijack this thread, simply wanted to clear up any thoughts or concerns over our published numbers as they were being discussed, quoted and compared
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It's an absolutely brilliant platform from the factory and the thought of having that potential locked away is just the cherry on top. Anyone with a 718 GT4 / Spyder has made an excellent choice ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Any specific questions you may have please do feel free to ask via DM or on any of the JCR threads
I wasn't at all intending to hijack this thread, simply wanted to clear up any thoughts or concerns over our published numbers as they were being discussed, quoted and compared![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
JC
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Any specific questions you may have please do feel free to ask via DM or on any of the JCR threads
I wasn't at all intending to hijack this thread, simply wanted to clear up any thoughts or concerns over our published numbers as they were being discussed, quoted and compared
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JC
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Last edited by ltfl09; 11-18-2020 at 04:14 PM.
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I live in an area where I have to pass state emissions testing, If you install the gas particle filter delete or the sport cats will it cause a check engine light on US cars?
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Really like the sound; I'll likely go for the Inconel option in the new year to pair up with the Akrapovic link pipes. GT4 is already hibernating for the winter, so no rush on my end until next spring before I can even start it up. Look forward to seeing some installation pictures and other sound clips from those of you who've decided to go this route as well!